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British views on smaller than .303   Small Arms <20mm

Started 28-May by autogun; 601 views.
autogun

From: autogun

28-May

A paper from 1928 summarising very tentative official interest in reduced-power ammo for the standard rifle: https://forum.cartridgecollectors.org/t/an-early-questioning-of-full-power-military-cartridges/38928

Presumably this was followed up by interest in the .276 Pedersen, for which an ammo production line was set up.

 

QuintusO

From: QuintusO

28-May

It's interesting that the performance and efficiency of .280 British was such a step down from .276.

17thfabn

From: 17thfabn

29-May

"It's interesting that the performance and efficiency of .280 British was such a step down from .276."

 

I would guess that would be because the .280 was expected to be used in select fire weapons. So a more controllable cartridge would be needed for full auto.

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17thfabn

From: 17thfabn

29-May

Or did the Brits intend to switch to a semi automatic with the .276?

 

QuintusO

From: QuintusO

29-May

No. It is not any more controllable (later versions are in fact less controllable). It's just poorly optimized.

nincomp

From: nincomp

29-May

Was there ever an "official" reason given to justify the poor performance, ie low manufacturing cost for the bullet (or shapely bullets might excite the soldiers?)

QuintusO

From: QuintusO

29-May

Nah, the program was just underfunded and under-strength.

DavidPawley

From: DavidPawley

29-May

Which is pretty much the story of all British development programs after ww2. That and requirement creep.

MoD / Treasury never seem to catch on that it’s always cheaper to do it right first time than to fail on the cheap consistently.

TarheelYank

From: TarheelYank

30-May

Hah!  The US leads the world in requirement creep!

Maybe "leads" isn't the word I'm looking for.

 

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