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new 57mm APC at Moscow parade   Army Guns 20+mm

Started 24-Jun by mpopenker; 1342 views.
mpopenker

From: mpopenker

24-Jun

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T-15 heavy APC on T-14 Armata chassis

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Kurganets-25 APC

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Derivatsiya-PVO SPAAG

Red7272

From: Red7272

24-Jun

Well the one on the Kurganets looks dubious but the T 15 module and the SPAAG on the other hand looks awesome.  

Jeff (Jefffar)

From: Jeff (Jefffar)

24-Jun

So the T-15 is 57mm + Co-Ax + 4x ATGM while the K-25 is 30mm + Co-Ax + 4x ATGM

Red7272

From: Red7272

24-Jun

The 30 mm module is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bumerang-BM

This Kurganets-25 has a different module with the end of the 57 mm barrel sticking out of it. 

Edit. Nope, I'm imagining things.

Module has changed slightly and the 30 mm is missing it's muzzle brake.

  • Edited 24 June 2020 23:23  by  Red7272
NealB4Wilson

From: NealB4Wilson

25-Jun

It's a 57mm low pressure gun or AGL

autogun

From: autogun

25-Jun

NealB4Wilson said:

It's a 57mm low pressure gun or AGL

Is it? I thought that one had disappeared.

There's certainly a big difference in the ammo: the AGS-57 case is only 93 mm long (see replica on far right of second group down), while the S-60 round measures 347 mm (see middle round, 9th group down).

Red7272

From: Red7272

25-Jun

That would be the right size for that module, but the loss of the high velocity 30 mm gun would seem problematic. 

NealB4Wilson

From: NealB4Wilson

25-Jun

Here on the left is the 57mm HE and on the right is the apfsds they designed for it. So in a way they don't need the 30mm gun anymore and now they have a more capable HE lober aswell

autogun

From: autogun

25-Jun

Unfortunately the picture is too small to see the detail clearly.

I can't see how an APFSDS projectile will fit into a 93 mm-long case!

NealB4Wilson

From: NealB4Wilson

25-Jun

It doesn't fit into the case, it fits into the void space where the large HE shell was, they also of course add extra propellent into that space aswell.

Sorry about the photo it's probably the best on the internet though. So on the left at the front of the table is the 57mm HE shell to the right is the apfsds projectile and to the right of that is the projectile integrated into the shell. Notice the two shells on the end are the same OAL.

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