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Well, the G36 replacement may be stalled, but Germany has decided on an optic, the 1-4x ELCAN. Overall a decent but unspectacular choice.
Raytheon ELCAN, a Raytheon Technologies subsidiary, and LEONARDO Germany, a Leonardo SpA subsidiary, were awarded a contract for 107,929 sights to provide the main combat sight (HKV) for the German Armed Forces.
Any news about HK433? Does it still on development? Really curious about the final design.
Afaik there has been many changes done to the receivers
they changed reciever? cool
I find it absurd. They should have adquired the lowest number of optic possible for really first line units and wait for market development.
They should have adquired the lowest number of optic possible for really first line units and wait for market development
It does seem like they are putting the cart before the horse buying the optics before they've even sorted out the rifle situation.
And yes, given the developments with smart optics, and even just the continued refinement of 1-6x and 1-8x optics, it does seem an odd choice to go alllll in on the pretty dated Spectre 1-4x, which was introduced in 2003.
On the flipside though, the Spectre is reportedly a very sharp, durable optic, which offers pretty comparable performance to a RDS + 4X ACOG in a single, non ITAR optic. So certainly better then the legacy Hensholdt G36 optic, or just mounting an Aimpoint RDS.
gatnerd said...It does seem like they are putting the cart before the horse buying the optics before they've even sorted out the rifle situation.
I’ve known a few people who have brought a new rifle for their glass.
absolutelly. It's a nice choice by itself and compared with others of the same category. But 100.000?? All 100k rifles are going to use them?
Specially if finally Bundeswehr is going to adopt a retrofit kit for the G36
100.000?? All 100k rifles are going to use them?
Is there some reason all 100k should not use them?
Probably the best argument for that is that not only is the DR not light but 4x is often not enough these days.
Anyone know what the eye relief is on the DR in 1x?
The one thing I don't particularly like about LPVO's is the touchy eye relief and eye box with them.
Im actually considering grabbing the primary arms / holosun optic with the ACSS Vulcan reticle which actually shows you directly in the sight picture if your alignment is off with it to plop on top of my 1-8's and 1-4's.
This will add even more weight which is far from optimal though and will probably necessitate going to a sopmod style stock instead of my MFT minimalists I tend to prefer.
JSSAP is working on some very interesting stuff in the way of 3d printed optics including digitally enhanced versions, we'll see how that goes.
Good overview of the Elcan:
I do some shooting with the Elcan SpecterDR mounted up on a couple rifles, go over the features of the optic, and what I think of it overall.Elcan SpecterDR:...
Its main benefits over the ACOG is that its 1x + 4x in one, can work with night vision, and being LED powered, the user can set the brightness to the ideal level (ACOG is often either too bright or night bright enough.) Also being non-ITAR and non-tritium likely important for the EU.
Compared to a LPVO its general benefit is being more compact, lighter than a LPVO+Mount, faster magnification changes, and better battery life (~600-3000hrs vs ~100-150hrs for LPVO like Razor and Tango). I suspect its also more rugged than most LPVO's.