Military Guns and Ammunition

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LMAO Germany adopts an AR-15 Small Arms <20mm

Started 14/9/20 by QuintusO; 125655 views.

Msg 301 of 442 to schnuersischnuersi

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From: graylion

3/4/22

schnuersi said:
But IMHO the question is if a LMG is really needed in mech inf squads if a SAW is available.

What is the distinction?

Msg 302 of 442 to grayliongraylion

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From: gatnerd

3/4/22

LMG is a machine gun primarily intended to be fired from a bipod and carried by infantry. This is a mechanical distinction of design.

A SAW is basically whatever a military chooses to issue to infantry squads as their primary source of automatic fire. This could be a LMG (M249 US army) a GPMG (MG3 Austria) or an automatic rifle (BAR/M27 Marines.) So it’s a matter of usage rather then design.

At least that’s my take.

Msg 303 of 442 to grayliongraylion

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From: stancrist

3/4/22

I asked that, too. His distinction is @ https://forums.delphiforums.com/autogun/messages?msg=7720.280

Msg 304 of 442 to grayliongraylion

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From: schnuersi

3/4/22

graylion said:
What is the distinction?

Sorry, i am lazy.
If i am refering to a SAW i mean a SCHV, belt fed on bipod.
While an LMG is a full caliber machine gun on bipod.
Using two three letter abbreviations is very convenient.

Msg 305 of 442 to schnuersischnuersi

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From: graylion

3/4/22

yeah, just trying to figure out terminology. SCHV?

Msg 306 of 442 to grayliongraylion

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From: schnuersi

3/4/22

graylion said:
yeah, just trying to figure out terminology. SCHV?

small caliber high velocity.
I though this one is common knowledge. Sorry.

Msg 307 of 442 to schnuersischnuersi

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From: Farmplinker

3/4/22

Extruded MG receiver? I like it!

One thing about AM, though. People are, for whatever reason, willing to accept products made from it than other methods. "This has MIM parts". And do I really need to bring up some reactions to castings?

Hopefully we'll see improvements in "acceptable" technology for weapons production.

Msg 308 of 442 to FarmplinkerFarmplinker

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From: roguetechie

4/4/22

Extrusions are great.... Almost sounds like you guys are inadvertantly describing the ots-128 in 7.62 NATO here.

Edited 04 April 2022 11:34 by roguetechie

Msg 309 of 442

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From: JPeelen

6/4/22

According to the website "soldat-und-technik.de":

Today, the judgment of Düsseldorf High Court (Oberlandesgericht) had been scheduled to be handed down.

Instead, the court decided that it needs to re-enter into questioning witnesses. If I understood the legal language of the courts public statement correctly:

The court was informed that Heckler & Koch, before the German Patent Court, changed its way of arguing to defend the validity of its scupper (thats how I call it) patent. This is the patent allegedly infringed by the Haenel rifle candidate.

The court sees the change of HKs position regarding the patent as substantial enough to re-discuss the matter in court, among other things re-assessing the chances that the scupper patent can be upheld at all.

P.S.: For those who wonder: a scupper (German: Speigatt) has been for centuries the way Navies got rid of unwanted water on the deck: let it flow back into the sea through appropriate holes.