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M16A3   General Military Discussion

Started 27-Dec by smg762; 637 views.
smg762

From: smg762

27-Dec

Just trying to find the unloaded weight of a bare bones M16A4 (minus magazine and all attachments)...  anyone know?  Is it 3. 1kg or closer to 3. 4

I saw somewhere that the origina A1 was only 2. 9kg,  and the current A4 was far heavier..  

  • Edited 27 December 2020 16:21  by  smg762
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Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

27-Dec

A1 models were lighter because of pencil-thin barrels, fixed stock, lighter handguard. A3 should be at 3.4kg while A1 cca 2.9kg

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zragon13

From: zragon13

1-Jan

"M16A3" as issued to Israeli army marksmen was just a standard A2 with safe-semi-full auto modes (it had a permament carry handle, not flattop, regular "govt" profile barrel) thus it should weigh same as standard A2. It was marked M16A2E3 on the receiver. 

Mustrakrakis

From: Mustrakrakis

1-Jan

zragon13 said:

It was marked M16A2E3 on the receiver. 

That's interesting.  Who manufactured your A3's?

zragon13

From: zragon13

2-Jan

I'm pretty sure that they were Colt and had US Govt stamped on receiiver although the A3's that were issued beginning in the mid 90s as DMRs were all brand new (not second hand from US like the M16A1s). They were replaced in my unit by M4s after Lebanon2 and those were replaced by Tavors around 2013. I've seen issued M16A1 and "M4s" built on A1 lowers that said H&R or GM Hydromatics, but IIRC,  all the A3s were Colt. 
 

If it's important to you, I can look for old photos of receiver markings that I took.

  • Edited 02 January 2021 11:06  by  zragon13
Mustrakrakis

From: Mustrakrakis

2-Jan

It's not particularly important, I was just curious.  Thanks for the reply.

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