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.30 Super / 8mm Super pistol cartridge   Ammunition <20mm

Started 5/1/22 by gatnerd; 7318 views.
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gatnerd

From: gatnerd

12/1/22

Some more pics:

This photo is especially interesting - it looks like .30 Super is nearly as thin as 5.7x28, which really speaks well for overall mag capacity. 

  • Edited 12 January 2022 8:57  by  gatnerd
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gatnerd

From: gatnerd

13/1/22

Patent on the 8mm Super, before it was rebranded as the 30 SC:

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/7e/27/f8/36daa7966d0382/US20210223009A1.pdf

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gatnerd

From: gatnerd

19/1/22

A nice look at 30 SC vs 9mm; you really can see how much narrower it is.

smg762

From: smg762

27/1/22

What's the main appeal of 380? I don't see the benefit over 9mm

nincomp

From: nincomp

27/1/22

smg762 said:

What's the main appeal of 380? I don't see the benefit over 9mm

Simpler (often direct blowback), cheaper and more compact pistols than for 9x19.  Often used for a small backup gun or a "Ladies pistol."   Smaller diameter cartridges were often derided as "mouse guns."

17thfabn

From: 17thfabn

27/1/22

All of what nincomp said plus less recoil.

Obviously a 9mm is much more powerful than a .380 which is also called a 9 X17 mm. 

But imagine firing a 9mm in something as small as a Ruger LCP? Even with .380 it is pretty snappy. 

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

27/1/22

Realistically I doubt they could get a 9mm LCP. Whole pistol is 10.6oz, with a 0.75” thick slide - which is what makes .380 attractive.it’s the largest caliber that can fit in these diminutive pocket pistols.

17thfabn

From: 17thfabn

28/1/22

They could scale up the Ruger LCP .380 to 9mm. It wouldn't be much fun to shoot and would be a lot to handle.

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

29/1/22

They have scaled it up, I believe it’s the LC9. It’s substantially thicker abd heavier relative to the LCP

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