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Ukraine weapons thread   General Military Discussion

Started 24/2/22 by gatnerd; 241980 views.
gatnerd

From: gatnerd

8-Jan

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

11-Jan

https://archive.fo/vyLmM

Interesting article. Trying to get an effective HEAT warhead that weighs 1lb.

Inside, it also links to a new development - Russia producing a factory made micro munition for drones, designed to be dropped by the Orlan 10:

https://cat-uxo.com/explosive-hazards/aircraft-bombs/ofsp-aircraft-bomblet

40mm with purpose made gravity impact fuse

To my knowledge this is the first factory made UAV micro munition.

EmericD

From: EmericD

11-Jan

gatnerd said:

Interesting article. Trying to get an effective HEAT warhead that weighs 1lb.

Droping rifle grenades (or shooting them vertically) is probably too easy...

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

11-Jan

Perhaps this is the war to revive a market for rifle grenades?

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

11-Jan

Interesting ammo stat:

Meanwhile, Turkey to supply Ukraine with DPICM Cluster munition 155mm shells:

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

11-Jan

Drones.

Dragonfly, a quadcopter that uses the same warhead as the Polish Warmate:

Suicide quadcopter assembly line:

Heavy quadcopter dropping reportedly 82mm mortars; 60mm makes more sense.

17thfabn

From: 17thfabn

12-Jan

I am some what surprised that the U.S. would authorize shipping 155 mm ICM projectiles to Ukraine. I had thought those were retired and considered to be politically undesirable to use due to the high dud rates which could cause civilian casualties long after the conflict is over.

mpopenker

From: mpopenker

12-Jan

17thfabn said:

I had thought those were retired and considered to be politically undesirable to use due to the high dud rates which could cause civilian casualties long after the conflict is over

Senator Richard H. Black - The US and NATO don't care how many Ukrainians die

Russia Ukraine War: "We don't care! The United States and NATO, we do not care how many Ukrainians die. Not civilians, not women, not children, not soldiers....

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

12-Jan

The Ukrainians have been clamoring for DPICM for several months now.

This is both to the greatly increased effectiveness, but also as a way to reduce wear on their artillery gun barrels, as a single shell can achieve the effect of 6-10 conventional.

The resistance was political, but someone finally got their heads out of their ass and realized UXO contamination isn’t a priority when you’re in a war of national survival on home soil. 

Not the same as coating some Afghan village in unexploded bomblets to whack out a handful of durkas, which was the expected use case when DPICM was retired.

Now that Real War is back on the menu, I’m hoping we see a return to DPICM. Although hopefully using the electronic self destruct fuses developed by Spain for theirs.

RovingPedant

From: RovingPedant

12-Jan

gatnerd said...

The resistance was political, but someone finally got their heads out of their ass and realized UXO contamination isn’t a priority when you’re in a war of national survival on home soil. 

Also less of an issue if the Russians have already been using cluster munitions, or even huge quantities of normal artillery. 

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