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Ukraine weapons thread   General Military Discussion

Started 24/2/22 by gatnerd; 396544 views.
farmplinker2

From: farmplinker2

4/5/23

Don't have a mortar and/or rounds for one, but have plenty of RPGs?

stancrist

From: stancrist

5/5/23

Almost right.  Try this:

Don't have a mortar, but have plenty of rounds for one and plenty of RPGs?

farmplinker2

From: farmplinker2

5/5/23

I was more responding to the top of the post, but your explanation for the bottom picture sounds right.

stancrist

From: stancrist

5/5/23

farmplinker2 said:

I was more responding to the top of the post...

Oh?  In that case your comment makes no sense. 

"Don't have a mortar and/or rounds for one, but have plenty of RPGs?"

If they don't have mortar rounds, they would be unable to assemble the hybrid RPG/mortar rounds shown at the top of the post...

Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

5/5/23

RPG 7  has proven to be most versatile 

Friends of mine manufacture a carbon fiber version, savings in weight are about 35%  4.2kg for carbon RPG-7

Now they are looking at making CF wishbones for Nexter Titus, which seems to be suffering from having low payload capacity so shaving off weight everywhere except the armor plate is on the menue

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

5/5/23

Mr. T (MrT4) said:

Friends of mine manufacture a carbon fiber version, savings in weight are about 35%  4.2kg for carbon RPG-7

Super cool man.

Never thought I'd see a luxury RPG 7 :-)

farmplinker2

From: farmplinker2

5/5/23

Your comment has made Airtronics very sad.wink

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gatnerd

From: gatnerd

6/5/23

Spectacular and hellish video of incendiary ammo arriving in a city:

Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

6/5/23

Spat over shells for Wagner will likely not be resolved , it seems the top brass is quite content with Wagner being pulled of the Bakhmut front line after they have done most of the work , only something like 5% of the city still in Ukrainan hands with all access roads under fire.

Wagner boss said they lost 1000 soldiers KIA in a month in Bakhmut , but eastimates7000-8000KIA Ukrainian losses  to Wagners artillery heavy advance

Kadirovs forces will be taking over

 We are starting to transfer positions, Bakhmut will undoubtedly be taken by Akhmat forces

“I thank Ramzan Akhmatovich for agreeing, having, most likely, the opportunity to obtain everything necessary and all the necessary resources, to take our positions in Bakhmut. I am already contacting his representatives in order to start transferring positions immediately, so that on May 10, at 00.00, exactly at the moment when, according to our calculations, we will completely exhaust our combat potential, our comrades will take our places and continue the assault the village of Bakhmut. A little more than two square kilometers remained in Bakhmut. Bakhmut will be taken, no doubt, by the forces of "Akhmat".

The Washington Post releases new documents from US intelligence leaks. They concern the conflict between Prigozhin and the Russian Ministry of Defense, which escalated again.

The leaks date back to February when Wagner's handler had already started blaming the military for a shortage of ammunition for his PMC. Data was obtained through wiretapping and message interception.

The documents show that "the Russian military leadership was frustrated by Prigozhin's harsh public attacks and discussed how to suppress his criticism."

Also, officials of the Russian Defense Ministry "were not sure that it was possible to successfully wage an information war against Prigozhin if the government did not prohibit him from making public statements."

CIA military sources in Russia "couldn't say unequivocally" whether Wagner received ammunition because it was not distributed directly from the ministry but through a task force in Bakhmut. At the same time, the sources admitted that "Prigozhin's statements may be true."

One of the documents for February 12 stated that the head of the General Staff Gerasimov "ordered to stop the supply of ammunition, as well as military transport flights intended for the transport of ammunition" to the Rostov headquarters of the PMC (we note that on February 23, Prigozhin announced that the problem had been resolved and the shipment of shells for Wagner resumed).

After Prigozhin's public claims, he was summoned to a meeting with Putin and Shoigu on February 22. The day before, the curator of the PMC asked the President of Russia to allow him to continue recruiting from prisons, to train the mobilized and recruit foreigners, in particular, Afghans, into Wagner.

But Putin essentially refused. "The document, citing FSB interceptions, says that Putin ordered Prigozhin to resolve these issues with the Ministry of Defense taking the side of his generals and not Chief Wagner," the publication reports.

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