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Ukraine weapons thread   General Military Discussion

Started 24/2/22 by gatnerd; 358194 views.
stancrist

From: stancrist

31-May

Mr. T (MrT4) said:

As said design flaw with the fusing, as with most kamikaze drones users found in practice that you are not getting perfect impact every time so they have been adding secondary fuses...

Ah, I see.  It appears that you and I had a different idea of what "design flaw" meant.

stancrist

From: stancrist

31-May

Mr. T (MrT4) said:

So it seems the 60mm mortar is not the smallest desired , maybe we need a proper 40mm as well.

It looks to me like they were not using 40mm because it was desired, but because 60mm ammo was not available.

Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

31-May

Things are straightforward in regard to Korea

They are an industrial superpower living under the actual threat of war( not the imaginary like EU today),  with actual hot manufacturing lines.

Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

31-May

I can imagine that jerry rigged integration onto soviet fighters and demanding attack profile cut massively into ,effective use of JDAMs what were always meant to be used from high to medium heights where bomb corrections are relatively small and GPS recivers is staring directly into the sky

Why Ukraine GPS Guided Bombs Are Failing?

The JDAM bombs are prepared for deployment on planes in the same way as other bombs. Once the plane is airborne, the pilot can input the GPS coordinates of a...

Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

31-May

This would really count as Darwin awards worthy

By STEPHEN BRYENMAY 31, 2023

''One of the most important targets for the Russians was the 7th Tactical Air Brigade, which is based at a military airfield near Starokonstantinov in the Khmelnitsky area. The location in western Ukraine included Su-24M and Su-24 MR fighter-bomber jets that had been modified by the UK to carry Storm Shadow cruise missiles.

The Storm Shadow was developed by the UK and France and is a low-observable, long-range, air-launched cruise missile. It was designed by  Matra BAe Dynamics. That company was formed in August 1996 by merger of half the missile business of Matra Defense of France and BAe Dynamics (a division of British Aerospace) of the UK  Today Stormshadow is manufactured by MBDA Missile Systems. Stormshadow carries a 990 lb. (450 kg) conventional warhead.  The cost per missile is $2.7 million.

Own goal? Darwin Award candidate?

A story going around says that Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov and his UK counterpart, Ben Wallace, the UK secretary of state for defense, published a celebratory postcard showing a picture of an Su-24 sporting the Storm Shadow cruise missile. A problem arose, however, because the postcard also showed, in the upper right-hand corner, the insignia of the 7th Tactical Air Brigade, thus enabling the Russians to know which aircraft had the Storm Shadow and where they were based.

On May 29 the Russians attacked the 7th Tactical Air Brigade in Starokonstantinov.  Five Su-24s were damaged or destroyed, and storage facilities for Storm Shadow missiles were hit in the Russian attack.  It isn’t clear if this is the only Storm Shadow-equipped unit but, in any event, the loss of the aircraft and missiles is a significant blow to Ukraine.''

Stormshadow Postcard Signed by Ben Wallace, UK secretary of state for defense. Photo: Twitter

stancrist

From: stancrist

31-May

Mr. T (MrT4) said:

This would really count as Darwin awards worthy...

It was certainly a really dumb thing for the Ukrainian Defense Minister to do, but no, it does not qualify for the Darwin awards.

"The Darwin Awards...recognize individuals who have supposedly contributed to human evolution by selecting themselves out of the gene pool by dying or becoming sterilized via their own actions."

Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

31-May

Yes you are right 

But it explains why after initiall one or two storm shadow launches there have been no more to be seen anywhere

Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

31-May

Malloy Aeronautics ?150 is a new drone seen in Russian border regions so far nearly all drones used to attack inside Russia are either Chinese Mugin or a number of Ukrainian products

T150 at a presentation on RN carrier

Downed T150 was carrying mortar grenades

Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

31-May

Sometimes kamikaze drones are shot down by infantry fire , note one of the soldiers switches to firing a shotgun 

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

1-Jun

Alas it did not look like the shotgun bagged the drone, much as I want that to happen.

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