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Ukraine weapons thread   General Military Discussion

Started 24/2/22 by gatnerd; 356340 views.
stancrist

From: stancrist

31-May

Mr. T (MrT4) said:

This would really count as Darwin awards worthy...

It was certainly a really dumb thing for the Ukrainian Defense Minister to do, but no, it does not qualify for the Darwin awards.

"The Darwin Awards...recognize individuals who have supposedly contributed to human evolution by selecting themselves out of the gene pool by dying or becoming sterilized via their own actions."

Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

31-May

Yes you are right 

But it explains why after initiall one or two storm shadow launches there have been no more to be seen anywhere

Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

31-May

Malloy Aeronautics ?150 is a new drone seen in Russian border regions so far nearly all drones used to attack inside Russia are either Chinese Mugin or a number of Ukrainian products

T150 at a presentation on RN carrier

Downed T150 was carrying mortar grenades

Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

31-May

Sometimes kamikaze drones are shot down by infantry fire , note one of the soldiers switches to firing a shotgun 

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

1-Jun

Alas it did not look like the shotgun bagged the drone, much as I want that to happen.

farmplinker2

From: farmplinker2

1-Jun

"The Most Dangerous Sporting Clays".

Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

1-Jun

Given the short practical range of a shot gun buckshot , it most likely did not hit the drone.

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

1-Jun

Yes, there would really need to be a dedicated anti drone load to have any chance.

Something like the federal 'flite control' wad that holds on the pellets tightly together as a near slug for the first 15-25 yards before falling away, and loaded with tungsten shot made with proper spherical shot. 

Even then it would be pretty meh given the speed and difficulty seeing a drone. 

American 180 loaded with tracers would be better:

"Laser Beams" Full Drum of .22 tracer through an American 180

Title says it all. American 180 packed full of piney mountain .22 tracer. Only thing missing is the storm trooper outfit. Thanks to TacticalNooB42 for recor...

Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

1-Jun

For now, EW is by far the best protection, DIJ and DIY drones are not designed to work with interference so can be hijacked with relative ease, and lots of chicken wire for protection against RPG carrying drones , altough new FPV drones use simple naked wire fuze so the chicken wire doesn't help much

Basicaly wires intermeshed but not touching till the impact makes a short circuit, 

FPV drones are now being manufactured by the thousands 

DNR group claims to be now ramped up manufacturing of near 1000 kamikaze drones per month , 7 inch kamikaze drone is sub 300$ build , most expensive are the Googles with the controller. While cheap to manufacture ,but i reckon FPV drones for now have relatively low effective rates as they are quite demanding to pilot i would be suprised if 1:5 makes it to enemy positions.  Much more dependant on operator skill than any ATGM

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