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Ukraine weapons thread   General Military Discussion

Started 24/2/22 by gatnerd; 357535 views.
Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

3-Jun

Russians have a bunch of Himars equivalents already on hand , old projects that were passed over, by MOD years ago .folks are actually bemoaning that anything new is being developed ,when there is already a developed product .Not just show prototype but item that went through all the military testing, the 300mm six pack launch pods and satellite-guided missile is already in use

The lightweight 300-mm MLRS 9K58-4 "Kama", using 300-mm rockets MLRS 9K58 "Smerch", but made on the automobile chassis KamAZ-6350 or KamAZ-63501 (8x8), was developed by SKB JSC "Motovilikhinskiye Zavody" ( Perm) in the 2000s. The first version of the combat vehicle 9A52-4 MLRS "Kama" was presented at the Moscow Aviation and Space Salon MAKS-2007 and was equipped with one unified quick-detachable transport and launch container 9Ya295 with six 300-mm rockets. The dimensions of the sealed container 9Y295 are 7512 x 1130 x 996 mm, curb weight - 6.2 tons, empty - 1.42 tons. The total combat weight of the combat vehicle in this version was 23.6 tons. The crew of two people, the car on the march was disguised as a truck with a fabric canopy.

However, this machine MLRS "Kama" has not received development. The 9Y295 unified transport and launch containers with six 300-mm missile guides were also used on the 9A53 combat vehicle of the 9K512 Uragan-1M bicaliber (220 and 300 mm) MLRS, which was formally put into service in 2016, but has so far remained in piece copies .

At the REA-2009 arms exhibition in Nizhny Tagil (Sverdlovsk region), a new version of the 9A52-4 Kama MLRS combat vehicle was demonstrated, now equipped with a rotary 300-mm six-shot tubular launcher MZ-196 instead of the 9Ya295 transport and launch container. Accordingly, a special transport-loading vehicle (TZM) 9T234-4 was introduced into the MLRS, carrying six 300 mm caliber missiles and also made on the KamAZ-63501 (8x8) chassis. Tests of prototypes of the MLRS "Kama" in this version were carried out for several years, but in the end they were discontinued due to lack of interest from the Russian Ministry of Defense, which decided to acquire a modernized version of the MLRS "Smerch" performed by 9K515 "Tornado-S".

The reasons for the current reincarnation of the Kama MLRS in a “new look” and with guided missiles are quite obvious and are well described by Stalin’s legendary phrase addressed to the aircraft designer A.N. Tupolev about copying the American B-29 bomber: "Don't do it better, do it!".

 

This is what was much later bought as MLRS 9A53 Uragan-1M with twin pods 300mm or 220mm pods , vehicle that also near twice the size and weight 

9A54-2 "Kama"  was unveiled in 2009 differs by not using a sealed container, for use with all legacy 300mm missiles  , reloadable pack is about one tone heavier than the sealled missile pack

Then there is option on armored Kamaz 8x8 chassis 

Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

3-Jun

Mobile phone based ATGM simulator

Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

3-Jun

Explosive reactive armor at work

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

4-Jun

Mr. T (MrT4) said:

Explosive reactive armor at work

Great video. The tank does take two solid hits. 

From this clip, it looks like it take a close range (50-100m) hit from some sort of direct fire rocket. 

https://twitter.com/Bodbe6/status/1664717888979181568

2nd hit is weird. Looked like an artillery strike hits, then a half second later a smaller explosion hit the side of the turret. Not sure what munition this would be.

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

4-Jun

Drone dogfights in ukraine:

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/drone-dogfights-ukraine/

FPV drone narrowly doges a incoming missile:

https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/status/1665022035188146176

Some new UA drones, possibly a 'dive bomber' style.

https://twitter.com/Seveerity/status/1665100573429968898

farmplinker2

From: farmplinker2

4-Jun

Anybody going to be selling those on the civilian market? That would be a fun marksmanship competition to have if you're bored with current formal disciplines!

Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

4-Jun

The near miss of the drone shows perfectly the issue of fusing the missile  , target is found and engaged and anything larger would be shot down , but missile detonating milisecond too late will make the shrapnell miss the quadcopter  DIJ mavic being very small .

Talon Pro drone , its a bit small to drop anything larger than handgrenade , 0.5kg payload. Could probably carry 1kg but it would be overloaded. Given its plasti diped ,sugests its plasti diped for more robustness but that considerably cuts into payload capacity due to weight of the plastic coating.

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Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

4-Jun

Not to rosy picture painted here

https://warontherocks.com/2023/06/what-the-ukrainian-armed-forces-need-to-do-to-win/

Oberst Markus Reisner continues to by leaps and bounds the best source of analysis of this war , no one else comes even close 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWYiJzJMb5k

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

5-Jun

Nice little video clip of NASAMs in action, discussion interview with its operators, and brief clip of it shooting down a cruise missile.

https://twitter.com/AirPowerNEW1/status/1665468907136720899

Cruise missile hit

NASAMS likely to backbone of UA air defense as it will have a good amount of launchers + NATO/US has a lot more missiles for it (as they are also used by fighter jets) and there are decent yearly production numbers of them.

Overview of NASAMS, pretty ingenious, and developed by Norway.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASAMS

"The AMRAAM is one of the most widely used air-to-air missiles in the world, and stockpiles of it are higher than any other comparable system. As NASAMS uses existing air-to-air missiles such as the AIM-9 Sidewinder, AMRAAM, and AMRAAM-ER, there may be thousands of older missiles in NATO's arsenal that can be fired from a NASAMS battery without change.[citation needed] The AIM-9X variant includes an internal cooling system, eliminating the need for launch-rail nitrogen supply required by older variants of the missile.

A report has described NASAMS as "extremely well suited to Ukraine because of the massive numbers of missiles that NATO and allies can supply, specifically for the air defence system."[42][43] In particular, older AMRAAM A and B models have been replaced, making available many older missiles which could be sent to Ukraine.[44] For example the UK government has offered to donate "[h]undreds of additional air defence missiles" including the AMRAAMs."

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Video of Russian EW warfare in action

With Russian DPR Special Forces Recon & Electronic Warfare Team On Ukraine Frontline Mission

In this Special report I embed with the Russian DPR OBTF "Cascade" Special Forces Drone Recon & Electronic Warfare Team on a Mission to the Russia - Ukraine ...

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