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Tracks vs Wheels General Army topics
From: Mr. T (MrT4)
18-Mar
Expensive upgrade ~$17 million USD to convert a M1A1 SA to a M1A2 SEP v3! :blink: later drops to 9.5mio $ , makes anti tank drones seem like a bargain .
From: Mr. T (MrT4)
19-Mar
Who knows? there is also question if any new ones are actually still being built or if they are just recycling the thousands held in stocks.
And it seems my post is inaccurate congress papers indicate upgrade cost FY 2023 as 11.7mio$ not 9.8milion$
Rough-y 5mio difference , 11.7 vs 17mio $ for upgrade from from M1A1SA or M1A2 SEP2 base vehicle
Cost of upgrades only, not new production.
- The Average Procurement Unit Cost (APUC) for FY 2023 is $11.738 million for a quantity of 44 M1A2 SEPv3 tanks using the M1A2 SEPv2 as the seed vehicle for all 44 tank upgrades.
- The Average Procurement Unit Cost (APUC) for FY 2022 is $11.555 million for a quantity of 90 M1A2 SEPv3 tanks using the M1A2 SEPv2 as the seed vehicle for all 90 tank upgrades.
From: schnuersi
19-Mar
graylion said:how much are they new?
Roughly the same.
The tanks will not only be upgraded but completly refurbished. So they will be as good as new. There are some savings but its not massive.
From: graylion
19-Mar
Dafuq?
British army to receive Swedish Archer 155mm wheeled howitzers to replace AS90s donated to Ukraine
British Army will receive the modern wheeled artillery howitzer Archer to replace the AS-90 155mm tracked self-propelled howitzers supplied to Ukraine, as part of an agreement struck with Sweden.
Read more from www.armyrecognition.comFrom: schnuersi
20-Mar
graylion said:Dafuq?
A pretty good pick I would say. Could have been much worse.
From: graylion
20-Mar
schnuersi said:A pretty good pick I would say. Could have been much worse.
I was just confused at replacing tracks with wheels. But it _is_ an interim solution after all. And that got me thinking about mounting the Archer system on a track - Bronco? Kettenboxer?
From: Mr. T (MrT4)
20-Mar
As next gen shells extend the range into 60-70km , wheeled platforms are even more game than before, if you look at HIMARS use in Ukraine it is literally fired from highways.
With 70km this is quite doable
- Edited 20 March 2023 15:30 by Mr. T (MrT4)
From: graylion
20-Mar
Mr. T (MrT4) said:As next gen shells extend the range into 60-70km , wheeled platforms are even more game than before, if you look at HIMAS use in Ukraine it is literally fired from highways . With 70km this is quite doable
Yeah, I get that.
From: graylion
21-Mar
km rounds are vey expensive. Basr bleed rounds are abou km range Thinking about it,