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Future Infantry Heavy Weapons   Army Guns 20+mm

Started 29-Sep by stancrist; 6003 views.
stancrist

From: stancrist

2-Oct

gatnerd said:

An interesting chicken egg question is whether this was due to the lack of a PDW for them to carry. 

Couldn't / didnt want to also carry a M4, and they either lacked a pistol or figured it was effectively useless at afghan ranges and didnt bother carrying one. 

Had an actual MP9/MP7 type PDW been available, I wonder if they would have chosen to carry it?

I don't personally know any of the guys who used the XM25 in Afghanistan, so I could only guess if any of them would have chosen to carry such a PDW.

Considering combat distances in AFG, do you think that either the MP9 or the MP7 provide enough effective range to warrant carrying the extra weight?

  • Edited 02 October 2022 22:07  by  stancrist
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gatnerd

From: gatnerd

5-Oct

Perhaps an option for the super grenadier:

https://soldiersystems.net/2022/10/05/land-forces-22-squad-support-weapon-40/

SSW40:

Hint of brochure looks like a concept for a XM25 style smart optic integration, which is obviously the ideal:

stancrist

From: stancrist

5-Oct

gatnerd said:

Hint of brochure looks like a concept for a XM25 style smart optic integration, which is obviously the ideal:

Looks like an artist's rendering of the FCS-MR800 (first photo below, center) mounted on an earlier iteration of the SSW (second photo below).

More recent photos show what looks like the FCS-TRB (first photo below, right) mounted on the latest iteration of the SSW (third photo below).

  • Edited 05 October 2022 19:40  by  stancrist
EmericD

From: EmericD

5-Oct

Someone should ask Rheinmetall to design a 60 rds magazine for the XM5...

mpopenker

From: mpopenker

5-Oct

EmericD said:

Someone should ask Rheinmetall to design a 60 rds magazine for the XM5...

stancrist

From: stancrist

5-Oct

LOL.  Imagine what that would look like.

EmericD

From: EmericD

5-Oct

stancrist said:

LOL.  Imagine what that would look like.

Yep, but still shorter than the 10+shots monstrosity of the SSW40, which only needs a 2 wheels carriage to looks like a field gun...

stancrist

From: stancrist

5-Oct

I think you're exaggerating.  Doesn't look that bad to me. 

Should be easy to carry one in the gun and a few spares.  laughing

In reply toRe: msg 28
gatnerd

From: gatnerd

5-Oct

The 10rd mag is bizarre; I dont get why they are showing it with that vs a 5-6rd box mag thats at least in the realm of reasonable as far as size and weight goes.

  • Edited 05 October 2022 22:22  by  gatnerd
stancrist

From: stancrist

6-Oct

gatnerd said:

The 10rd mag is bizarre; I dont get why they are showing it with that vs a 5-6rd box mag thats at least in the realm of reasonable as far as size and weight goes.

???  The vast majority of the photos do show a 6-rd mag.  Only a few of the photos show the 10-rd mag.

6-rd mag

10-rd mag

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