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NGSW Phase 2 Consolidation and info Small Arms <20mm
From: Red7272
18/8/21
stancrist said:you first have to assemble the barrel, bipod, and baseplate before you can even think about shooting at that insurgent who took a few potshots at you. That process will take you well over a minute. https://youtu.be/Rcz5unaXwvQ?t=127 2:07-3:17
So your patrol is carrying an 81 mm mortar now? Aren't they already overloaded? Wouldn't you leave it in a fire base to shoot in support?
From: stancrist
18/8/21
Red7272 said:So your patrol is carrying an 81 mm mortar now? Aren't they already overloaded?
Ever hear of a vehicle patrol? An MRAP can handle the load.
Red7272 said:Wouldn't you leave it in a fire base to shoot in support?
Apparently this unit decided they would rather have a mortar with them: https://youtu.be/TfzyFvZzIH0?t=15
From: DavidPawley
18/8/21
Where is your fire base that’s within 5650m of the insurgents that are 1000m from your patrol?
Why are you patrolling there?
- Edited 18 August 2021 6:10 by DavidPawley
From: Red7272
18/8/21
stancrist said:Ever hear of a vehicle patrol? An MRAP can handle the load.
Every heard of an AGL why do they need a mortar then?
From: Red7272
18/8/21
DavidPawley said:Where is your fire base that’s within 5650m of the insurgents that are 1000m from your patrol?
Because you are securing the local population from the insurgent interference as part of a hearts and minds campaign with adequate numbers of troops, support and clear goals.
From: poliorcetes
18/8/21
If you dudes continue to talk about 81mm mortars, I won't resist the temptation anymore and I will start to talk about RPAs / UAS which carry mortar bombs right above heads of the adversaries. Please don't make me derail this thread
From: Red7272
18/8/21
poliorcetes said:If you dudes continue to talk about 81mm mortars, I won't resist the temptation anymore and I will start to talk about RPAs / UAS which carry mortar bombs right above heads of the adversaries. Please don't make me derail this thread
Well that would be an obvious solution but we are talking US army here.
From: stancrist
18/8/21
Red7272 said:Every heard of an AGL why do they need a mortar then?
Well, the most obvious reason to take a mortar is 81mm HE > 40mm HEDP. 
Other possible reasons they might want to have a mortar are firing smoke...
...and illumination.
From: stancrist
18/8/21
P.S. Dismounted use of 81mm mortars in Afghanistan was probably rare, but not unheard of.
From: stancrist
18/8/21
poliorcetes said:If you dudes continue to talk about 81mm mortars, I won't resist the temptation anymore and I will start to talk about RPAs / UAS which carry mortar bombs right above heads of the adversaries. Please don't make me derail this thread
LOL. This thread was derailed more than 100 posts ago when the XM25 and Mk47 were brought into the discussion. 