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NGSW Phase 2 Consolidation and info Small Arms <20mm

Started 30/8/19 by gatnerd; 742764 views.

Msg 1975 of 3567 to Gr1ff1thGr1ff1th

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From: stancrist

19/11/21

Gr1ff1th said:
the contract also leaves open the possibility of the adoption of the TV Rifle, and then later adopting the future Lonestar LWMMG

That seems unlikely. One intent of NGSW is a common caliber for squad weapons.

Having a mix of 6.8mm rifles and .338 machine guns would be contrary to that goal.

And it's one thing to carry a .338 MG with a 20-round starter belt for a promo video.

Lightweight Medium Machine Gun (LWMMG) - .338NM Cartridge. - YouTube

But, is a .338 machine gun truly practical for automatic riflemen in actual combat?

Edited 19 November 2021 17:04 by stancrist

Msg 1976 of 3567

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From: gearmrk

19/11/21

SIG will be adopted as an interim solution until CT matures. ??

Msg 1977 of 3567 to roguetechieroguetechie

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From: BruhMomento

19/11/21

i'm in deep confusion now https://soldiersystems.net/2020/01/15/ussocom-completes-safety-certification-and-purchase-of-sig-sauer-mg-338-machine-guns-ammunition-and-next-generation-suppressors/

Msg 1978 of 3567 to stancriststancrist

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By LWMMG I mean the Lonestar 6.8 MMG (seeing as it's a rifle caliber basically, and I added LW for lightweight)), that was my bad

And no I don't think .338 MG's are practical at the squad level, even with CT/TV Ammo

Edited 19 November 2021 21:25 by Gr1ff1th

Msg 1979 of 3567 to Gr1ff1thGr1ff1th

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From: stancrist

19/11/21

Gr1ff1th said:
By LWMMG I mean the Lonestar 6.8 MMG (seeing as it's a rifle caliber basically, and I added LW for lightweight)), that was my bad

Yeah, when you said Lonestar LWMMG, I thought you were talking about this:

"In addition to access to the NGSW firearm intellectual property, LoneStar is also moving forward with the GD-OTS Lightweight Medium Machine Gun design in 338 Norma Mag..."

US Army Grants NGSW Novation from General Dynamics-OTS, Inc to LoneStar Future Weapons - Soldier Systems Daily

I googled, but didn't find anything about a Lonestar 6.8mm MMG. Did I miss that part of the discussion?

Msg 1980 of 3567 to stancriststancrist

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From: Gr1ff1th

19/11/21

Again, this also looks to be an error from me, In the original press release discussed here they mentioned that Lonestar was working on lightweight medium machine gun, which I took to mean a 6.8 MMG, I didn't know they were going to continue development of the GD-LWMMG in .338, which now I know.

As a side note, does anyone know how much pull a .338 MG actually has in the US Military, it seems like a solution looking for a problem, although maybe high pressure TV .338 will change that somewhat.