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NGSW Phase 2 Consolidation and info   Small Arms <20mm

Started 30/8/19 by gatnerd; 477507 views.
stancrist

From: stancrist

5-Jan

poliorcetes said:

And who is the partner of Winchester for NGSW?

I wouldn't jump to any conclusion about the winner of NGSW.  This isn't the first time that Winchester has been awarded the contract to operate LCAAP.

EmericD

From: EmericD

5-Jan

poliorcetes said:

And who is the partner of Winchester for NGSW?

If they need 20 millions to tool for the NGSW ammo, maybe the winner is not Textron?

poliorcetes

From: poliorcetes

5-Jan

Indeed Winchester is already operating LCAAP for 7.62 ammo. BUT this time is for NGSW, ergo they will run the production of the winner fo NGSW. And I seriously doubt that they will run the production of either SIG or TV ammo

poliorcetes

From: poliorcetes

5-Jan

Or maybe they need to build and improve really sizeable lines in order to lower the unitary cost of the new cartridge

I confess: I still want them to win and to make the industry evolve. Maybe they have solved chamber alignment

stancrist

From: stancrist

5-Jan

poliorcetes said:

BUT this time is for NGSW, ergo they will run the production of the winner fo NGSW. And I seriously doubt that they will run the production of either SIG or TV ammo

Lake City is a US Army facility.  If SIG or TV ammo is adopted, Lake City will produce it for the military.

poliorcetes

From: poliorcetes

5-Jan

I knew that. But do you think that TV or sig would accept Winchester as line manager?

stancrist

From: stancrist

5-Jan

I think they would have no choice.

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ergonomous

From: ergonomous

7-Jan

According to TFB's Matthew Moss, Vortex has won the NGSW-FC contract:

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2022/01/07/vortex-win-us-army-next-generation-squad-weapons-fire-control-contract/

"The Army has awarded Sheltered Wings Inc. d/b/a Vortex Optics, based in Barneveld, WI, a 10-year firm fixed price, Follow-on Production Other Transaction Agreement (P-OTA) with a maximum ceiling value of $2.7 billion for production and delivery of up to 250,000 XM157 Next Generation Squad Weapons – Fire Control (NGSW-FC) systems over a 10-year period.

The NGSW-FC system is a ruggedized fire control that increases accuracy and lethality for the Close Combat Force. It integrates a number of advanced technologies, including a variable magnification optic, backup etched reticle, laser rangefinder, ballistic calculator, atmospheric sensor suite, compass, Intra-Soldier Wireless, visible and infrared aiming lasers, and a digital display overlay."

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"The NGSW-FC will serve as the fire control for the Next Generation Squad Weapons – Rifle and Automatic Rifle. The NGSW-FC is the planned replacement for the Close Combat Optic, Rifle Combat Optic, and Machine Gun Optic within the Close Combat Force (Infantry, Cavalry Scouts and Combat Engineers)."

P.S. yes this is my first post, hello all, I've been reading this forum for a long time though

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

8-Jan

ergonomous said:

P.S. yes this is my first post, hello all, I've been reading this forum for a long time though

Great first post, welcome to the forum!

poliorcetes

From: poliorcetes

8-Jan

"Intra-Soldier Wireless, visible and infrared aiming lasers, and a digital display overlay."

Does somebody know if that digital display overlay can offer a perturbed aimpoint? 

". It also features a compass and intra-soldier wireless connectivity (presumably alongside the IVAS kit which is in development). It also includes visible and infrared aiming lasers, and a digital display overlay."

Some of us assumed that a conservative FC such as vortex or L3 Harris were defined as a risk containment measure, given the high risk of the new ammo. Nevertheless, IVAS is suspended and can be rejected definitivelly.

I mean, without a full capable FCS that offers a perturbed aimpoint, the most important step will not be made for now

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