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NGSW Phase 2 Consolidation and info Small Arms <20mm
From: Farmplinker
8-Oct
Buy M4A1s. That's the only way the M5 will get adopted! (Not that adopting the M5 is a good idea....)
From: stancrist
17-Oct
Apsyda said:It'll be interesting to see if this goes anywhere.
Will it go anywhere? Well, let's see.
US Army adopts the 9mm SIG P320.
The ADF adopts the 9mm SIG P320.
SOCOM adopts a SIG MCX variant in .300 BLK.
The ADF adopts a SIG MCX variant in .300 BLK.
US Army adopts the SIG MCX Spear in 6.8x51.
If the ADF adopts a 6.8x51 rifle, my money is on it being the SIG MCX Spear.
- Edited 17 October 2022 6:26 by stancrist
From: gatnerd
23-Oct
Interesting that it uses a full 'Christmas tree' reticle, which is something I'd more associate with a DMR.
From: EmericD
23-Oct
gatnerd said:Interesting that it uses a full 'Christmas tree' reticle, which is something I'd more associate with a DMR.
Performance-wise, the XM5 is a DMR!
From: gatnerd
23-Oct
It certainly is; frankly its well above most DMRs and approaching the type of range we'd associate with a .300 Win Mag sniper rifle of the past.
The real question will be whether this game changing scope and ballistics are paired with the much less flashy but crucial bit of the DMR equation - a bipod. Or will they be firing a 1200m weapon monopoded off a magazine?
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I just wonder whether the christmas tree reticle may prove a bit 'busy' visually for the average joe, compared to the much more simplified reticle of an ACOG, or the Steiner ICS, the later of which is basically like a hunting scope/red dot hybrid reticle.
I'm not a fan of the super thick crosshair, but something more clean perhaps. I like how most of the field of view is crisp and unobstructed for better situational awareness / 'scoping out' the area. I feel the XMAS tree may end up obscuring parts of the terrain.
From: gatnerd
23-Oct
EmericD said:A review of the XM-157
So got more time to watch the video. The ability to save multiple target (25:30) distances (up to 10 targets all ranged), and then the ability for the scope to somehow automatically transition to those, was really fascinating.
From: stancrist
23-Oct
gatnerd said:The real question will be whether this game changing scope and ballistics are paired with the much less flashy but crucial bit of the DMR equation - a bipod.
Just as the M110A1 has a bipod, I'd expect that a DMR version of the XM5 would also be so equipped.
From: EmericD
24-Oct
gatnerd said:I just wonder whether the christmas tree reticle may prove a bit 'busy' visually for the average joe, compared to the much more simplified reticle of an ACOG, or the Steiner ICS, the later of which is basically like a hunting scope/red dot hybrid reticle.
The reticle is in the first focal plan and is designed to be seen at 8x power, I think that reducing the power to 6x or 4x will just make the "christmas tree" invisible.
From: Mr. T (MrT4)
24-Oct
Steiner ICS is just old technology . Christmas tree is now almost standard in precision optics and having an etched Christmas tree means even if electronics fail you still have normal and useable sight.
Tech widely available these days so its just a question of when most manufacturers start offering models with digital reticle options,
https://www.lumineq.com/blog/webinar-recording-available-transparent-displays-for-optical-devicesHow you see the world determines what you see. With the righ...