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NGSW Phase 2 Consolidation and info   Small Arms <20mm

Started 30/8/19 by gatnerd; 549278 views.
Farmplinker

From: Farmplinker

8/9/19

Seeing how Mauser is still living off the royalties it got off the US prior to WW1, you should sue. Your great-great-grandchildren will thank you.;)

EmericD

From: EmericD

8/9/19

Farmplinker said...

Seeing how Mauser is still living off the royalties it got off the US prior to WW1, you should sue. Your great-great-grandchildren will thank you.;)

I already helped the USMC to save several millions of US dollars, my employer is going to think that I'm working for Uncle Sam... :-)

JPeelen

From: JPeelen

8/9/19

Could you elaborate on "how Mauser is still living off the royalties it got off the US prior to WW1"? I doubt that the, at the time, very small U.S. Army played any significant role in Mauser income.

All that is left of "Mauser" is a brand name and a front company on the premises of Blaser at Isny which owns it. I fail to see any attempt to market something interesting since the M03 16 years ago.

The former Mauser factory at Oberndorf is now part of Rheinmetall. The Oberndorf management took pride in ordering scrapping (yes, scrapping, not selling) each and every precious small arms caliber test barrel they still had, for example.

Farmplinker

From: Farmplinker

8/9/19

It was a joke. I know the royalties the US paid weren't squat compared to WW1 and 2 contracts Mauser had.

Red7272

From: Red7272

8/9/19

Wessels3 said...

What it basically comes down to is that the recoil of a hot 6.8mm round will not be a problem. The weapon system will not be very light, with lights, sights and lasers stuck on it, as well as a suppressor. The weight helps to reduce recoil and then there is the suppressor, as you showed, which also reduces recoil. And, of course, the suppressor reduces the other issue with hot rounds, i.e. muzzle blast and flash.

And in room clearing they can wear ear muffs and a welding helmet, then unscrew the suppresser and fire a few rounds from the doorway into each room. Anyone inside will be deaf, blind and on fire.

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gatnerd

From: gatnerd

10/9/19

SIG showed off its Ammo Bag for the 6.8 LMG:

http://soldiersystems.net/2019/09/10/dsei-19-sig-next-gen-automatic-rifle-ammo-soft-bag/

"Available in 50, 100, or 200 round capacity, this soft bag has a clip integrated at the top to attach it to the MG."

"The belt links start with a spoon which is inserted into the feedtray and pulled through the other side to seat the first round."

stancrist

From: stancrist

10/9/19

Thanks for posting that.  The bag shown looks to be 50-rd capacity.  Considering the size of a 200-rd container for the 5.56 M249, I can't imagine how a 200-rd bag for 6.8 NGSW ammo would be at all practical.

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

11/9/19

"Thanks for posting that.  The bag shown looks to be 50-rd capacity.  Considering the size of a 200-rd container for the 5.56 M249, I can't imagine how a 200-rd bag for 6.8 NGSW ammo would be at all practical."

Yeah 200rd sounds...ambitions. Unless its like a backpack/waist mounted system, or for vehicles/fixed defense. 

(19.2g 6.8 + 4g mg link)x200 = 4.64kg / 10.22lb

(24g 6.8 + 4g mg limk) x 200 = 5.6kg / 12.35lbs

poliorcetes

From: poliorcetes

11/9/19

Indeed ammo backpacks can adquire popularity with the new cartridge

 

However, adding the new fire control systems I would assume that ammunition spending would be decreased

stancrist

From: stancrist

11/9/19

I doubt that it's a backpack.  As I recall, the Ironman backpack system developed by the US Army held 500 rounds of 7.62 ammo.

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