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11/9/19
"Thanks for posting that. The bag shown looks to be 50-rd capacity. Considering the size of a 200-rd container for the 5.56 M249, I can't imagine how a 200-rd bag for 6.8 NGSW ammo would be at all practical."
Yeah 200rd sounds...ambitions. Unless its like a backpack/waist mounted system, or for vehicles/fixed defense.
(19.2g 6.8 + 4g mg link)x200 = 4.64kg / 10.22lb
(24g 6.8 + 4g mg limk) x 200 = 5.6kg / 12.35lbs
11/9/19
Indeed ammo backpacks can adquire popularity with the new cartridge
However, adding the new fire control systems I would assume that ammunition spending would be decreased
11/9/19
I doubt that it's a backpack. As I recall, the Ironman backpack system developed by the US Army held 500 rounds of 7.62 ammo.
12/9/19
More info from TFB:
How this is 20% lighter remains to be seen...
The MG-6.8 can be chambered in both SIG’s 6.8x51mm Hybrid and 7.62x51mm, requiring only a barrel change and no change to the bolt. The MG-6.8 takes the MG-338’s technology and compresses it into a package the size of an M249.
It weighs around 12lbs and some weight saving measures have been taken to achieve this with the carrying handle removed and the MG-6.8 does not have the ability to change its feed direction. Additionally, the quick-change barrel feature is not present but is still able to change barrels if needed.
It uses the same shot-stroke gas piston system and also has a similar recoil mitigation system and internal buffer [to the sig .338] which reportedly brings down its felt recoil to that of an M4 Carbine – 2ft.lbs.
12/9/19
Textrons submission now public:
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2019/09/12/first-photo-of-textrons-ngsw-prototypes/
LMG looks great.
Carbine looks absolutely awful though, the forward 'tumor' has grown even larger since the 6.5 CT carbine:
This likely would have been better as a bullpup, so that the 'tumor' could be tucked into the stock/above the pistol grip, allowing a slimmer, easier handgaurd.
I imagine this one is tremendously front heavy in terms of balance.
12/9/19
gatnerd said...
How this is 20% lighter remains to be seen...
I'm seeing "brass case" and "metal base", so maybe the base is not steel?.
The weight reduction of ~20% is not an impossible task if the base represent 60% of typical a brass case total weight, and replacing this brass base with lightweight alloy base.
12/9/19
gatnerd said...
Textrons submission now public: LMG looks great.
Indeed. And it's interesting to see that, like SIG Sauer, Textron opted to go with a belt-fed machine gun, instead of a mag-fed automatic rifle.
gatnerd said...
Carbine looks absolutely awful though, the forward 'tumor' has grown even larger since the 6.5 CT carbine:
This likely would have been better as a bullpup, so that the 'tumor' could be tucked into the stock/above the pistol grip, allowing a slimmer, easier handgaurd.
I think it would be at least as bad as a bullpup. It would be extremely ass heavy, and have a length of pull better suited to apes than humans.
12/9/19
Look at the lenght of CT cartridges. Compare them with the pens to the left
12/9/19
"Look at the lenght of CT cartridges. Compare them with the pens to the left."
Good catch! I didn't even notice them till you mentioned them.
I cropped the image and edited it (poorly) to help make them stand out more:
Also, on the second pass I spotted the 6.8 mag. Looks fairly thick, but is sadly not a quadstack as hinted at in some of Textrons patents.