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XM-25 here we go again...   Army Guns 20+mm

Started 9/11/20 by autogun; 15681 views.
In reply toRe: msg 88
jxexqx

From: jxexqx

23/11/20

Considering that the British found the 40mm grenade launcher to be a very poor replacement for the 51mm mortar, I wonder if a 50 to 60mm mortar with a decent fire control system and the ability to launch guided munitions would be a better solution than any grenade launcher no matter how clever its sighting / fusing system is. 

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Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

23/11/20

In terms of recoiless arms a modernised RPG 7  with grenades ranging from 40 to 105mm might be the most versatile thing out there .

A  business partner of mine's son had his master's thesis about a RPG 7 launched drones.(he made some as proof of concept) , but i am sure some one somewhere is developing something like that.

stancrist

From: stancrist

23/11/20

graylion said:

"The brass are yet again trying to fix a non existent problem, because they are assuming that the troops are too daft to use transport"

So there is the insult to the brass. That is what his statement means and what I clearly read.

ROFL.  What you somehow read is quite different from what he actually said.

Red did not say,  "The brass are assuming that the troops are too stupid to use a transport."

He said, "The troops are too stupid to use a transport."

graylion said:

Get over yourself.

Go #&@% yourself.

renatohm

From: renatohm

23/11/20

So why use RCL instead of RPG?

renatohm

From: renatohm

23/11/20

Now that's a yuge fuze over there!

graylion

From: graylion

23/11/20

Been wondering the same, but it would not fulfil the flight time requirement?

renatohm

From: renatohm

23/11/20

Airtronic seems to have found a good solution with their featherweight RPG-7.

Such a weapon with clever rounds, and maybe some guided ones / smart optics, are probably good enough for a lot of situations.

Then again, other systems mentioned before have my administration - Russian (Bur, RPG-26 and GM-94) and Chinese (QLZ-87 and LG-5) systems, and their derivatives.

jxexqx

From: jxexqx

23/11/20

graylion said...

Been wondering the same, but it would not fulfil the flight time requirement?

Probably not. It certainly couldn't put a round through a window, two stories up at 200 yards . . .

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

23/11/20

jxexqx said:

Considering that the British found the 40mm grenade launcher to be a very poor replacement for the 51mm mortar, I wonder if a 50 to 60mm mortar with a decent fire control system and the ability to launch guided munitions would be a better solution than any grenade launcher no matter how clever its sighting / fusing system is. 

A few years ago we had a 200-300 post thread on man portable HE systems. The general consensus on the 3 best bang for the buck western systems were:

-Milkor M32 w/ Medium Velocity Airburst Grenades + Fire Control Unit

-M72E11 Airburst Law + Fire Control Unit 

And then to your point

-Imortar lightweight (10lb) 60mm with Fire control unit + SAAB MAPAM 

Fire control unit:

SAAB MAPAM:

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