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Sweden & Finland look to 7.62x51 as primary infantry rifle    Small Arms <20mm

Started 10-Nov by gatnerd; 2262 views.
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nincomp

From: nincomp

10-Nov

How much would the ogive of the 7.62x51 need to be lengthened to have a significant effect on BC and consequently more energy at 600m and beyond? 

I know that it would be unusual for one country to develop their own, slightly different ammo, but that would at least allow them to use standard 7.61x51 ammo when necessary.

Farmplinker

From: Farmplinker

10-Nov

Will the Finnish rifle be a licensed LMT?

EmericD

From: EmericD

11-Nov

Farmplinker said:

Will the Finnish rifle be a licensed LMT?

SAKO is part of the Beretta group.

Beretta was well involved into the NGSW program and is going to unveil a new assault rifle developped for the Italian SF. The SAKO rifle will probably share most of it's DNA with the Italian SF rifle.

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

11-Nov

EmericD said:

Beretta was well involved into the NGSW program and is going to unveil a new assault rifle developped for the Italian SF. The SAKO rifle will probably share most of it's DNA with the Italian SF rifle

Very interesting. The article had said that they expected an AR-10 type rifle, is that in line with whats expected for the Italian SF rifle? 

I take it they were not interested in the ARX 200...

EmericD

From: EmericD

11-Nov

gatnerd said:

I take it they were not interested in the ARX 200...

A paper from 2020 on this topic:

https://corporalfrisk.com/2020/05/27/the-return-of-the-sako/

I seems that they are looking for a rifle family, including a DMR, and the ARX-200 is not really suited for that task (it was developped first as a "battle rifle", but it was found that the design was very difficult to be "accurazed" in order to make a proper DMR).

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

11-Nov

EmericD said:

Beretta was well involved into the NGSW program and is going to unveil a new assault rifle developped for the Italian SF

Do you think Beretta, based on their NGSW involvement, may have added some NGSW DNA into the new rifle, to allow it to be more easily converted to 6.8 in the future? 

The original article mentions that Sweden may look to convert their rifles to 6.8 in the future should it become a reality. 

I'm excited to see what SAKO produces. I dont know about how their military rifles perform, but I've shot both SAKO and Tikka (their econo sister company) bolt action hunting rifles. I had no problem putting 3rds into 1" at 100yd, using basic JSP hunting ammo. They were both real shooters right out of the box. 

tidusyuki

From: tidusyuki

11-Nov

LMAO another country embracing the AR supremacy. This means lot of countries are also leaving folding stock. Does it deemed unnecessary nowadays?

  • Edited 12 November 2021 2:17  by  tidusyuki
gatnerd

From: gatnerd

12-Nov

tidusyuki said:

This means lot of countries are also leaving collapsible stock.

Do you mean, abandoning folding stocks in favor of collapsible stocks? As most AR10/15 type rifles these days employ a collapsible stock. 

tidusyuki

From: tidusyuki

12-Nov

Ah yes, what i mean is folding stock.

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

12-Nov

I think it’s mostly the AR being the most refined, constantly updated rifle design in the world, and countries being willing to forgo a folding stock in order to have it. Rather then the folding stock falling out of fashion.

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