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Ukraine weapons thread   General Military Discussion

Started 24/2/22 by gatnerd; 356320 views.
Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

29-Mar

Was kinda expected given the relatively thin armoring of a baseline A4 ,APU is installing the Russian "Kontakt-1" 

 

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

30-Mar

NLAW ACOG repurposed as AK sight

Tubes also being repurposed

  • Edited 30 March 2023 0:55  by  gatnerd
gatnerd

From: gatnerd

30-Mar

Even neutral Austria is upping its defense budget, making Ireland the only euro who hasn't in response to the Ukraine war.

RU optics industry developing domestic tank optics, question of time and quantity:

WW2 anti tank bomblets being used by drones:

French AMX has arrived

France donating ballistic missile defense:

Germany firing head of procurement

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gatnerd

From: gatnerd

30-Mar

Mr. T (MrT4) said:

Was kinda expected given the relatively thin armoring of a baseline A4 ,APU is installing the Russian "Kontakt-1" 

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

30-Mar

Nice look at the 3D printed grenade release mechanism for quadcopters:

Adapters are modular: 2x30mm, 2x40mm, and 1x'Universal' for hand grenades or AGL grenades.

EmericD

From: EmericD

30-Mar

The same drone downed 4 fighters?

schnuersi

From: schnuersi

31-Mar

Mr. T (MrT4) said:

Was kinda expected given the relatively thin armoring of a baseline A4

The Leo2A4 ist not thinly armored. Quite the contrary. For its time it has been one of the best protected MBTs. The armor is just outdated. But it will offer good protection against '80 and up to mid '90 tech weapons.

Mr. T (MrT4) said:

APU is installing the Russian "Kontakt-1"

Anything else would really have been a supprise and made me question the abilities of UA.

The idea to use ERA on the Leo2A4 is neither new nor special. Allready during my service time few of use really understood why we did not have additional ERA like the WP tanks. The A4s armor at the time certainly was good but more is better. Especially for flank protection it would have made sense.
Back in the mid '90 when the conciderable heavier and thus less mobile A5 came out there has been loud thinking about an A4A1 so to speak. Basically A4 with all A5 upgrades except the armor to keep the weight roughly the same. ERA has been proposed to improve protection especially over the flanks against HEAT attacks.
During the mission in Afghanistan this basic concept emerged again. Because the heavy duel grade frontal armor had not been needed. A A4 with additional protection against mines and RPGs would have worked better for fire support in the difficult terrain. The ligher weight and better power to weight ratio certainly would have helped.

DavidPawley

From: DavidPawley

31-Mar

Added to which, the Leo 2A4 just looks better.

Sure the vertical turret face has less effective los thickness than the wedge shaped A5 modules, and the A5 turret redesign of the gunner sight installation is a significant improvement, but the A4 just screams “I am a proper tank”.

wink

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

31-Mar

Incredible Tank vs Trench footage. At ~10:10 you see a tank blasting a trench from handgun range, but whole vid is pretty wild. 

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Excellent video showing drone explosives fabrication:

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And from another video, at least some drone munitions are starting to employ a standoff spike to improve burst height a bit.

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