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Ukraine weapons thread General Military Discussion

Started 24/2/22 by gatnerd; 241491 views.

Msg 556 of 1638 to gatnerdgatnerd

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From: Mr. T (MrT4)

28/4/22

Changing skins on an armored pickup , just sounds a solution in search of a problem, when money is no object. I find it hard to imagine where you would need to change from Toyota to Ford skin and think you are incognito because you switched . But i do inderstand how they came to it , its much easyer to build a well protected armored vehicle from scratch than work around off the shelf pickup that was built for half the weight you will end up with.

Msg 557 of 1638 to FarmplinkerFarmplinker

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From: DavidPawley

28/4/22

If you mean the ISV, it’s required to carry a 9 man squad. No Polaris can carry 9.

Msg 558 of 1638 to Mr. T (MrT4)MrT4

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From: schnuersi

28/4/22

Mr. T (MrT4) said:
Changing skins on an armored pickup , just sounds a solution in search of a problem, when money is no object.

Money allways is a problem.

Mr. T (MrT4) said:
I find it hard to imagine where you would need to change from Toyota to Ford skin and think you are incognito because you switched .

Its the other way round. You drive a Ford disguised as a Toyota.
That is a thing. In allmost any theatre outside of Europe and North America there are lots of unsuspicious vehicles that can blend into the local traffic needed. This is currently a major problem for most western nations who are involved in missions abroad.
Once the number of vehicles needed goes up to a certain point it makes sense to design and build a common armored cassis that gets disguised by simple parts.

Its a major problem to re build off the shelf trucks to disguised protected vehicles. A lot of parts a non standard. In theatre repair and maintenance is a real proplem. While Toyota parts might be available the wear and tear parts of the protected vehicles have been largely replaced. Having a standard chassis with standard parts in the supply chain would make it much easier and cheaper to maintain a fleet.