This is intended for people interested in the subject of military guns and their ammunition, with emphasis on automatic weapons.
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You may be right. It just seems like 30 rounds (4 + 1 x 6-rd mags) of 40mm HEAB might be a lot more effective, with higher hit probability, than 210 rounds (6 + 1 x 30-rd mags) of 5.56mm bullets in most infantry combat scenarios.
and no suppressive fire?
and no suppressive fire?
If you want the ability to provide suppressive fire, why would you use rifles?
I do really love the idea of rifle grenades, on paper anyway they are definitely efficient pound for pound (and probably dollar for dollar-------little fuzed shells are pricey, and any kind of timed airburst thingy will be crazy expensive). I think 40mm grenades are ~50% fuze by both mass and volume. While obviously easier to hit with if you've got it, even a high velocity 30mm cannon won't punch through the kind of armor a good HEAT rifle grenade will. Massed frag grenades, or the ability to put up a wall of smoke at a distance without calling anyone...... very attractive.
My only potential beef/question on rifle grenades: can you actually get most troops to actually use them? Is there a way to mitigate the recoil? Or is everyone just a wimp but France, Japan, and some plucky Balkanites? My impression is that while RGs are vastly more efficient in terms of payload delivered, most militaries have gone the 30-40mm tube route because rifle grenades are just so unpleasant to shoot.
25mm OCSW round had both range an ability to penetrate armor , Rifle granades have punch but are hard to aim at any real distance
Mr. T (MrT4) said:
It looks like the system you are showing is a crew served weapon.
Wouldn't a better comparison be to the 25 mm individual weapons ?
A modified Barrett rifle firing OCSW ammunition was tested but ultimately not adopted.
OICW fired 25mm grenades but they were lighter and slower than the ones fired by OCSW - not unlike individual and crew served 40mm grenade launchers.
pe. OICW fired 25mm grenades but they were lighter and slower than the ones fired by OCSW - not unlike individual and crew served 40mm grenade launchers.
Goodness. did the US ever envision a situation where logistics might be a bit stretched possibly?
The individual weapon was a low velocity 25 X 40 mm.
The crew served weapon was 25 X 59 mm.
Like with the 40 mm grenades the bigger one has much better range.
I don't know if the 25 X 59 has a better grenade than the 25 X 40.
The grenade for the 40 X 53 grenade is more powerful than the 40 X 46.