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From: ROSETTA3218/13/06 10:40 PM 
To: Drapetomaniac (cacimar) DelphiPlus Member Icon  (6 of 18) 
 565.6 in reply to 565.1 
  • This would have been Africans using their traditional healing methods with Native Herbs

Why do people continue to confuse the migrating western european Negroes (children of Yapheth) with the real indigneous Africans (children of Kham)?  The blacks brought to the West Indies were and are NOT Africans ... they came from western europe as indentured servants of the Spanish/Portuguese, the Dutch, the French and the English.  Since living on the continent of Africa they have learned some native herbs from the real Africans ... but I suspect they have learned very little of native African healing herbs.  I wouldn't be surprised if what you call African healing is nothing more than the herbs they took with them from western europe to the West Indies and Africa as indentured servants.

 

 
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From: ctj5278/16/06 11:03 AM 
To: ROSETTA321  (7 of 18) 
 565.7 in reply to 565.6 

Another case study of all sorts of slaves serving all sorts of masters...

So you're nobody new to me,  'Rosetta'...

But oh how sad...

 

 

 
From: ROSETTA3218/17/06 12:15 AM 
To: ctj527  (8 of 18) 
 565.8 in reply to 565.7 
  • Another case study of all sorts of slaves serving all sorts of masters... >> So you're nobody new to me,  'Rosetta'... >> But oh how sad...

HUH?

Hello?

Are you with us on this earth?

 

 

 
From: Drapetomaniac (cacimar) DelphiPlus Member Icon8/17/06 4:24 PM 
To: ROSETTA321  (9 of 18) 
 565.9 in reply to 565.6 

Rosetta - let's put it this way, the Africans in the Caribbean, the Americas and Africa can sit down together and discuss the same divities and healing work and udnerstand each other in the same context even with slight geographical and linguistic changes. 

 

 

 

 
From: ctj5278/18/06 11:26 AM 
To: Drapetomaniac (cacimar) DelphiPlus Member Icon  (10 of 18) 
 565.10 in reply to 565.1 

Good morning,   hello again,   and welcome back!

But since you (not me)  started this discussion (thread):

Please do continue...

FYI...

Later...

Peace...

 

 
From: ROSETTA3218/20/06 8:07 PM 
To: Drapetomaniac (cacimar) DelphiPlus Member Icon  (11 of 18) 
 565.11 in reply to 565.9 
  • ... the Africans in the Caribbean, the Americas and Africa can sit down together and discuss the same divities and healing work and udnerstand each other in the same context even with slight geographical and linguistic changes. 

You are not talking about the real indigenous  Africans or the children of Kham (mistranslated as Ham) ... you are talking about the millions of migrating western european blacks or Negroes (Celts, Spanish, Portuguese) or the children of Yapheth (Japheth in Latin) who invaded Africa (Khamitic lands) and the West Indies (Shemitic lands) as indentured servants with the whites of Spain, Portugal, England (U.K.) and the Dutch.  It was from the West Indies that these european blacks or Negroes were carried in small groups to South America (Khamite lands) and Central America/Mexcio/USA (Shemite lands) and into Canada (Yaphetite lands).  There is no reason for these european Negroes not to be able to discuss the same divities and healing work and understand each other as they are all the same western european peoples.  Yet there is very little they can discuss with the real Africans who are the Bushmen or Hottentots or the Pygmies or Twa or the Egyptians or the Berbers or the Ethiopians or the other real Africans who do not and have never spoken a western european language as do the migrating Negro who fasely call themselves "Africans."  The ancestry of a person is not determined by geographical location but by blood ancestry.  Western european Negroes  born on the African continent or in the West Indies do NOT make them Africans, who are the children of Kham by blood ancestry.

BTW, I remember reading that indigenous Spanish-speaking black slaves or Ladinos were brought over to Hispaniola in the West Indies (now called Dominican Republic/Haiti) about 1502.  If these Spanish blacks were in fact slaves, then they would have been the children of Kham who are indigenous to the southern part of the Iberian peninsula or europe (now called Portugal/Spain, etc.) .... which was first colonized by the children of Canaan or the Phoenicians.  However, if they were indentured servants, as they were brought in small groups into the USA, then they were the indigenous Spanish/Portuguese blacks or Negroes who were conquered by both the Greeks and the Romans .... and then finally bowed to the whites or Goths from Scandinavia as their gods.  As no western european Negroes were ever slaves in the Americas or Africa or India or any other place where the western europeans spread their colonization... these Negroes were always indentured servants as historical records show.

 

 
From: Drapetomaniac (cacimar) DelphiPlus Member Icon8/21/06 7:08 PM 
To: ROSETTA321  (12 of 18) 
 565.12 in reply to 565.11 

Are you telling me that you believe the Yoruba in Nigeria, who call themselves the sons of Oduduwa, aren't African?

These people who the Portuguese wrote about meeting for the first time in the 1400s?

What do you base the idea that the Yoruba, Fon, Ibo, Akan and others were planted in Africa?  Especially when their first meetings with Europeans are well documented.

 

 
From: stormshaddow8/21/06 7:15 PM 
To: Drapetomaniac (cacimar) DelphiPlus Member Icon  (13 of 18) 
 565.13 in reply to 565.9 

Do the similarities exist because of pre-Columbian contact between Africans and Americans?

 

 
From: Drapetomaniac (cacimar) DelphiPlus Member Icon8/21/06 7:26 PM 
To: stormshaddow  (14 of 18) 
 565.14 in reply to 565.13 

No - there is clear documentary, typical evidence of Portuguese meeting these ethnic groups.  Portuguese enslaving these ethnic groups.  Portuguese sending these slaves to the Americas.  These slaves preserving their African traditions.  These Africans even maintaining contact with Africa...

That's not to say there wasn't a preceding contact that influenced the pre-Columbian culture, of course.

 

 
From: stormshaddow8/22/06 8:43 AM 
To: Drapetomaniac (cacimar) DelphiPlus Member Icon  (15 of 18) 
 565.15 in reply to 565.14 
>>These Africans even maintaining contact with Africa...

That's not to say there wasn't a preceding contact that influenced the pre-Columbian culture, of course.<<

Some Africans maintained contact with Africa?......Pirates?

 

 
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