Dutchies? Do many people own them? They are rare here. Even Mals aren’t all that common.

https://youtube.com/shorts/9k2kzsIF9U?feature=share

https://youtube.com/shorts/tc1C2UbYCU8?feature=share

Think I finally got it.

Where do you live? PSA is dominated by Mals and DS’s.  The KNPV lines are unregistered X’s and the Mal X’s and DS X’s are the same breed.  If a pup is fawn colored it is called a Mal and if it is brindle it is called a DS.  The FCI lines of DS are a distinct breed and typically are much more inferior as a sport/working dog.

Way out west in woke country. Pits are the predominate breed.  There are very few training clubs in my area. I usually run into a lot of rescued pet dogs, many mixed breeds.

Here is the rest of that last video where the dog outs the bite on the second attacker, transports him to the judge and then send toward the fleeing  decoy for apprehension.  It was the first time we had done the whole scenario so my dog wasn’t clear whether he should recall on the out or guard, but he figured it out.

https://youtu.be/aghUrid5PHY

It was his decision to return to the decoy?  You did not give another command?  That is so cool to see him in action. I haven’t watched a PSA trial before.

You are aware they are banning the stick in IGE. Are there an concerns about limitations pending on PSA?

To be clear, this is just training.  I gave the out command and he was unclear because we have only done a few outs when he does a flee bite on the tricep from behind.  With the out command he is supposed to automatically go into either a silent or active guard.  On the out command, he paused, started to return to me so I gave the guard command and he gave an uncommitted bite which he shouldn’t have but was confused, another guard command, and an even less committed bite due to confusion, another guard and he figured it out, so it is something we need to work on.  A verbal out command means to out guard and blowing the whistle means to out and immediately return to heel, or return to heel in obedience, or is a signal to be called off the bite.  Sports like KNPV, PSA, and American Schutzhund are not affiliated with the FCI who has caved to the animal rights people to eliminate stick hits.  Many Mals in those sports are unregistered so the FCI has no power such as restricting pedigrees because there are no registered pedigrees.  My dog registered with the Canadian KC and AKC, and so far, there is attempt to restrict pedigrees for dogs in protection sports with stick hits.  I see no value in registries for pedigrees. The non FCI unregistered dogs have the best working ability.  For registered breeds, just look to the GSD show lines or any AKC breed where there are no required standards for breeding.  The breeder should be responsible and not policed by a registry.  $ is a big factor.  The next step for the animal rights people to ban prong and ecollar.  It is similar to 2nd Ammendment advocates and anti gun people.

If he can figure it out on his own he’s very close to having it down. The difference between a verbal command and a whistle is subtle.  It takes skill to teach him everything well. It’s a complicated program.

If they ban sticks and training collars they will lose mo yea and eventually become no more challenging than obedience trials. Those require skill but temperament doesn’t matter

Are you in Canada?  I thought you were in Northeastern United States.  Why aren’t more Mals registered?