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Gun Violence in America

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Americans' obsession with guns are killing us. Other countries don't have this problem, why do we insist on clinging to 19th century justice and neanderthal attitudes?

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Started 3/12/18 by Cstar1; 2054 views.
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From: Cstar1

3/12/18

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HWPeeler (HPeeler)

From: HWPeeler (HPeeler)

3/16/18

Interesting. The next time Fred, or someone in his family, gets mugged will he remember how defenseless he left his family?

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3/17/18

HWPeeler (HPeeler) said:

The next time Fred, or someone in his family, gets mugged will he remember how defenseless he left his family?

Really? So only if we have guns are we being responsible parents?

Tell me you're not really saying that. 

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From: HWPeeler (HPeeler)

3/17/18

I am saying defense is reasonable and responsible. A lack of defense is irresponsible.

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3/17/18

HWPeeler (HPeeler) said:

A lack of defense is irresponsible.

So if I choose to never have a gun in my home, in my family, or anywhere near me, I'm irresponsible?

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From: HWPeeler (HPeeler)

3/17/18

What part of defense do you not understand?

If you do not provide your family with medical care is it irresponsible? If you are afraid the doctor might make a mistake?

If you don't provide your family with financial support is it irresponsible? Are you afraid or ignorant of financial conditions that you ju8st don't want to think about it?

If you let people beat your family up and do nothing is it irresponsible? Are you afraid of confronting a villain?

If you let people rob or kill your family is it irresponsible?

If you could have done something to protect them but you refuse to is it irresponsible? Are you afraid of guns or afraid a gun related accident MIGHT happen|? Yes, if you could have done something but were afraid of a MAYBE circumstance you are irresponsible.

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From: Cstar1

3/18/18

I don't have to justify my anti-gun stance to you, or to anyone. And I certainly don't accept your contention that not owning a gun makes me, or anyone else in my family irresponsible. That's just ludicrous.

Are the vast majority of people in Australia, Europe and Japan irresponsible because their societies have essentially outlawed guns?

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From: HWPeeler (HPeeler)

3/18/18

Cstar1 said:

I don't have to justify my anti-gun stance to you, or to anyone.

Very true, but you certainly do.

Are you saying that if some violence happened to your family and you did nothing to prevent it, it would not bother you? I think it would. The problem is that this is not Japan or Australia. We already have hundreds of millions of guns in circulation. I am not opposed to serious gun laws. I just doubt how we b would implement them or what we would implement.

"Fewer rounds in a magazine" does nothing. It does not keep guns out of the hands of killers.

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3/19/18

HWPeeler (HPeeler) said:

Are you saying that if some violence happened to your family and you did nothing to prevent it, it would not bother you?

I'm saying that guns are not the answer. 

I don't have a gun. My son doesn't have a gun. My parents don't have guns. My brothers don't have guns. Most of the people I know don't have guns. This "only guns will keep us safe" mentality is insane, and I won't be a party to it. 

Fewer rounds in a magazine reduces the number of fatalities in spree shootings. You're quite simply wrong about this.

And I really don't get this "I'm all for gun laws but they're too hard to implement."

B.S. It just takes the courage to start.

HWPeeler (HPeeler)

From: HWPeeler (HPeeler)

3/19/18

Cstar1 said:

Fewer rounds in a magazine reduces the number of fatalities in spree shootings. You're quite simply wrong about this.

No, it just means they carry more magazines.

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