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Belmont post positions   Triple Crown - HRN Horse-Races.Net

Started 6/5/18 by Oldbettowin; 14888 views.
SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

6/8/18

Thanks!  Same to you, of course. 

The two horses I'm not using that seem to have garnered some support are Bambino Bravazo who could get a dream trip sitting off Justify & Vino Repole who may get the special Ziti Rigati Marinara.  Ha!

I'm going to play small especially after Giacomo commented that I should worry more that Citizen might run like Orson Welles, never mind the relatively swift Citizen Kane.

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

6/8/18

Like I said to Prince, I'm not itching to play it.  Going small & using J. as one of the 4 just for fun.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

6/8/18

i had time to do a few performance angles and i was surprised
maybe because of to many off track races.trying to get an idea, i don't think this helps much
a couple of these angles are hard for forward placed horses to qualify for, like last Q
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performace points
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justify 10
blended citizen  9
tenfold 9
bravazo   8
gronkowski 3
hofburg 3
noble indy 3
vino rosso 3
free drop billy 2
restoring hope
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fivestaryak

From: fivestaryak

6/8/18

Thanks, Robm.  Blended Citizen (MRP/HYP/ND/BOIS) with no stamina chefs, especially with Langfuhrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr is a tough one.  Should be interesting since he is from that nick with 9 winners (MRP/ND) or 10 if you want to throw in (MRP/SC) and both Thunder Gulch (MRP/HYP/ND/x) and Sarava (x/HYP/ND/BOIS) previous winners with no stamina chefs.

Tapit/P or Tapit/ND is some concern...he'll need to keep bringing those NP bms with decent dam families.  

Interesting bunch...even if the big one doesn't finish it off.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

6/8/18

any sire have more than 3 winners of the belmont ?

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

6/8/18

see if you can learn anything from this for the tapit concern'
8 generation female linebreeding
compare it to the 8 gen male linebreeding and look and note at the 5 gen. pedigree

TAPWRIT C, 2014 DP = 6-9-12-1-0 (28) DI = 3.00   CD = 0.71
Horse Inbreeding Stats Crosses Lines Blood% Influence AGR
SOMETHINGROYAL
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smartyslew

From: smartyslew

6/8/18

you know how bad the nor dan /br nick is for the derby, look at something royal and natalma
they are not compatible in the belmont . if hofburg wins he will be the first for this angle.

Something Royal and natalma and/or  her dam almahmoud have never been 
on the same chart for this angle for a belmont winners chart. Hofburg has all 3 toss for the win
style is ok for itm, since 1900 gallant man is the only belmont winner with a higher percentage 5.42 %
than hofburgs 5.314% but gallant mans who is good to go. 1957 winner
toss free drop billy for the same angle, but with these 2 contenders like crest says, one of these days
hofburg has some positve females besides S royal,aspidistra, knights daughter, la troienne
could be one of those days.
HOFBURG C, 2015 DP = 6-11-16-1-0 (34) DI = 2.78   CD = 0.65
Horse Inbreeding Stats Crosses Lines Blood% Influence AGR
NATALMA
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fivestaryak

From: fivestaryak

6/8/18

I have Lexington with four.  Tapit is in good company with Man O' War but given the eras, Tapit's feat is pretty impressive with nothing but good mares waiting in line.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

6/8/18

lexington with 4 , lexington/ leamington were quite a ,pair i think virgil and hindoo caught lexingtons daughters

all good lines.

look at how many tapits are out there in the next 2 crops. lots of P/N i'm sure.

somebody will get a jump start on that angle with deep pockets and the percentage of culls

will go up if they are buying off of 1 furlong works. i'll look for some homebreds.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

6/8/18

i edited message 90 gallant man won the belmont not the derby.

those linebreeding charts for females are dups angle in a 8 generation chart

thats puts their progeny  7th generation or closer.

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