Horse Racing Forum

Hosted by Cindy Dulay (CindyDulay)

This is a place for friendly and civil discussion of horse racing of all types including handicapping.

  • 372
    MEMBERS
  • 20273
    MESSAGES
  • 0
    POSTS TODAY

Discussions

Does it feel like a Triple Crown?   Triple Crown

Started 6/10/18 by Oldbettowin; 3332 views.
SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

6/10/18

High symptoms of EPO use or another synthetic undetectable comes to mind.  Clearly, the cat is not above it but so are a lot of others not above it.  I think you & I talked about this.

I'm not a Baffert fan & it's a shame because the guy is talented.  However, I can't forget the 7 horses that dropped dead on him.   I mean, by the time the death toll hit 3 which indicates a trend, I would have suspended everything until I got down to why this was happening in my barn.  But no, 4, 5, 6, 7.

Not to stop before that is plain wrong & shows what kind of character is behind the slick exterior, IMO.

I don't care about the exterior stuff.

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

6/10/18

Fully agree, man.  Would any of us like it as we watched the race if Hope was our horse?

Very stupid of Repole to open his big mouth.  In a way it was asking for a hatchet job even if he was being honest.  Would have been wiser to say, "oh no, we're not going to try to run with the speed of the speed.  That's suicide... We'll track"

PISTOL9

From: PISTOL9

6/10/18

I still remember back in Left Bank days and TAP.  Two young fillies also after running huge figs.  Lost respect for him then and BB when that stuff about those seven and traces of rat poison not used at the track.  EPO was mentioned in that post I saw on TG, mentioning that left hind foot (non dominant rear)  would be used to inject in the toe, then re-shod so it is not detected.  Possible irritation he was showing for that "scratch" right after the KD.

In reply toRe: msg 25
PISTOL9

From: PISTOL9

6/10/18

I watched the replay finally, whoever I saw elsewhere that wrote the RH interfered with Tenfold on the second turn, I did not see it.  I think Tenfold ran up on him a bit but RH had no place to go as he was in between two other horses and did not move in front of him.  I did see him pin in NI around the first turn as NI went inside when RH went way wide trying to fan him out.

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

6/10/18

PISTOL9 said...

I've never seen a horse in person with the muscles Justified has.  

I bring this up all the time.  Most of Baffert's horses look like Sammy Sousa, et al

In reply toRe: msg 1
Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

6/11/18

I thought maybe I just over-idolized the TC winners of my youth so I went back and watched the Belmont runs of Secretariat, Seattle Slew, and Affirmed.  I watched American Pharoah’s again then watched Justify’s.  While I thoroughly enjoyed myself I came away with no less of a feeling that Justify’s was somehow less deserving.  Not to beat a dead horse, but I think the reason it bothers me so much is that I was a fan of the other four and was happy to see them win.  With Justify I was just kind of meh.  Thanks to everyone for their input; I do feel better now lol.

In reply toRe: msg 34
PISTOL9

From: PISTOL9

6/11/18

Looks like Repole is asking for stewards investigation.  Again, surprised the Geroux was chosen to do that, I don't think he has ridden a lot for BB.  Maybe they are hoping for future payback for doing as told.  Pratt was in town, as well as Victor who I think did that to Shared Belief in the first interference which may have been the Pac Classic.  So I would have expected one of them as they are more likely to get payback rides.   I'd expect a suspension from it.  West acted shocked and said he was upset about the ride.  Bredar (agent) and Geroux had no comment. Doubt if West changes relationship to BB, Geroux probably will be his fall guy, but I don't question that he was following BB instructions. 

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

6/11/18

Too bad Dick Francis, the great racing fiction author, is in the great bookstore in the sky.  We could cue him for the novel version of this story.

Thinly veiled references, skulduggery, maybe even a murder instead of the real life version where Geroux merely gets tossed under the bus.

Repole:  " I got done to befaw I could do da udder guy...Investigate!" 

I'd read it.  :)

Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

6/11/18

I would read that too but you're the one that has to write it.  You've already got a cool pseudonym.

svdt

From: svdt

6/11/18

All of that is true. And, he just didn't seem to run very fast? I know it is always a fool's errand comparing tracks on different days in different years, but hey, that's what the speed figure is supposed to do for us, no? AP would have been open lengths ahead of Justify. I think that may be contributing to the feeling of being slightly underwhelmed. 

TOP