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Haskell 2018 ~ sans ~ Hassle ~ DogsUp & Delta Details   Handicapping - HRN Horse-Races.Net

Started 6/12/18 by DogsUp; 2863 views.

From: DogsUpBigE


Monmouth peeps are already talking with Bob for Justify. I will head for Jersey if in.. for bets, beach, bathing suit and butts. Cigar butts.

Talks look like some 2 mil package, up from kicker to get Am Pharoah to run for 1.75M for normally $1 mil purse. They have casino sports betting adding to the calculations pie. The field could be substantially large with significant slices for one ~2~3 finishers. Another ditty is $5 mil if winner goes on to win a bunch more races say includes Classic @ Church. Use their race to become  Derby~ish with future races to perform in vs Churchill Downs management points and where you come from ... Per their set up.

Monomouth will rise to a new level with sports bets.. Purses for this summer meeting place = horses. ...once they take sports betting. And NJ breeds will come back some.  When NYRA circuit benefited from Aqu  casino, purses skyrocketed and NY breeds got very fashionable.

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From: DogsUpBigE


Would trainer Bob Baff take the 2018 Haskell with Justify and skip the Travers like he wanted to with Amer Pharoah after AP's Hask win.

Keeping in mind Bob's runners have won 8 of the late Haskididles. Further making the potential (insured)' enticement of Baff having a $5 mil campaign ahead of him as the guy most likely to show up with the right colt at the right time. And then play through for bonus win. Ergo skip Trav. And makes Haskell..The summer place to be. For the right 3 yr old colt.

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From: DogsUpBigE



My Boy Jack....can't attack the potential mile time call   (  anticipated ) in mile and an eighth supped up track, supped up $2 mil purse Hascolini. And all carrying under classic 126 weights. 122_ish for standouts' PPs.

Sixty six people would have gone to the winner's circle had this Don't Tell My Wife Stable runner  collected first Roses in The Derby. 

MBJ barned @ Santa Anita, and those 5/and a half dozen peeps have a bigginski  decision. Psychic income vs purse payoff. IMHO (new feature!)

Will it be shipity -do - dah or stay home on the range?? Ship to softer spot?

Predict scratch for a better board hit .elsewhere..this Joisey G1 is a race that will be fast and this colt can't last that number up front of him. Numbah estimated 1:34.4 to 1:35:3.

Hit the road Jack,........

Has hit the board:  11 races @ 3 ~3~2  lesser Grades: lesser times (d)


From: Oldbettowin


At this point you’d have to have your head examined if you bet against Baffert in a grade 1.  If he didn’t already have Justify I’m sure we’d see another Arrogate come along and suddenly improve by 10 lengths.  

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From: DogsUpBigE


TC winner Justify has not had an official work yet. But some leg stretchers.

The perennial Sunday scheduled Haskell is but two dozen days away.

A Baffert signal would be some (2-4) official workouts. Before the below stated.

A better signal would be $2 mil put upon the table; if the TCer leaves the gate on pray & pay Sunday.

A bettor's signal is to know that the Haskell's Home ~ Monmouth Park just installed 7~day a week Sports Betting and would derive many marketing schemes by having the drought ending Apollo colt take to the Jersey shore sand. 

The field will include a couple of locally barned trois year olds that have won there, but should go off at > 100 to 1. 

Mr. Bee Bop has a long standing relationship of gating runners in the G1 with 8 wins, as well as with the oval's management.

A bad signal IMHO (new (d) feature) would be Parx Derby. And yet, the two TC trainer Bob was a go for American Ph. to run in Haskell, and a don't want to go to Travers..that campaign.

From a track surface basis Jersey over Parx.

As mentioned, Monmouth management minds have been scheming to have the Hask as the 1st leg for subsequent winner to go on to other races, outside the track, and provide a retroactive bonus of $5 mil. Maybe the parties are pitching future scheduled races. No reason to cast it in stone ala Triple Crown designated yr to yr.

Bob might go for this as he returns to the Jersey joint most years anyway and could pick up his ceremonial $check and trophy. Insurance anyone!

enjoy the's and racing (d)


From: honneerider


Much as I hate to say it, I have a feeling Bob is being too easy on the horse because he has had some recent word Justify won't run again. Hoping I am wrong. He did say the colt needs weight

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From: DogsUpBigE


Good Magic has tightened up his AM prep breezing figures @ Belmont Pk.

Bravazo #5 needs slower up front fractions ~ and will not get them, yet is 2nd M/L. And needs heaven sent aqua at this crispy dry NJ location.

Tossing up the track runners here #2 Navy Cm. & #3 Rm. Union.

Runners left #1 Line Sailer, #4 Core Belief and adding "Delta" runner coming from lawn win @ 16-1  #7 Golden Brown who looks like he responds to distance and time needed for 9 panels.

Tri becomes ~ 6/ 1,4,5,7/ same

Cover for one's amount to be wagered above:

Same with # 6 keyed in the 2nd hole.



From: inforadime


Thanks Dogs  ,Haskell  paid well ,made up for up ....up& down Saratoga meet so far.I thankfully will be at Saratoga aug 15 weekend,i got a feeling u are playing spa ,if you got a feeling ,I’m dancing in the ceiling


From: DogsUpBigE


I switched to a straight bet vs exotics with such a short field in Haskell. Even without a backup ticket in Tri ..race ran short Tri $.

Yes, I do favor Spa meet. But...if I look at a card / DRF and it looks unhadicapable " I pass that day. 

I usually pass up on races on a card. The unhandicapable" ones. Like under 6 fl on grass.

May go live to the Spa this year. Looking forward to it.

Stopped playing OTB on Sundays for a couple of yrs now, as I play jazz drums (and go to church after) If I like something can bet smile on ADW

Best regards,