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13 TC Winners   Triple Crown

Started Jun-20 by SeanL34; 876 views.
SeanL34

From: SeanL34

Jun-20

anyone care to rate the 13 Triple Crown winners?

Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

Jun-21

By what metrics?  It would have to subjective.  Ill rate the ones I've seen:

1. Secretariat

2. Seattle Slew

3. American Pharoah

4. Affirmed

4a. Alydar

5. Justify

SeanL34

From: SeanL34

Jun-21

I agree, just subjective impressions, still surprised to see AP above Affirmed.

zambito

From: zambito

Jun-22

1. Seattle Slew (Beat a TC winner)

2. Secretariat (Fastest over weak comp.)

3. Citation (Toughest horse of the 13)

4. American Pharaoh (Gran Slam)

5. War Admiral (Biscuit only blemish)

6. Affirmed (Beat soundly by Slew)

7. Sir Barton (Being 1st has merit)

8. Justified (Move's up if owners let him)

9. Whirlaway

10. Count Fleet

11. Gallant Fox

12. Omaha 

13. Assault 

Why Seattle Slew over Secretariat?

Well because until Justified he had been the only one to win it undefeated and he is the only triple crown winner to beat a triple crown winner in Affirmed who's consider one of the top 10 best American horses of all time. Also thought Secretariat ran faster, Slew beat way better horses than Secretariat did. 

  • Edited June 22, 2018 7:54 am  by  zambito
zambito

From: zambito

Jun-22

So by your criteria of Alydar being there then Victory Gallop too?? At least VG won one leg. Alydar lost all 3. 

Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

Jun-22

But if not for Affirmed, Alydar PROBABLY is the 11th TC winner.  Not sure about Victory Gallop or a whole bunch of others.

zambito

From: zambito

Jun-22

I agree Alydar was a monster. Which it only solidifies my criteria of why Slew should be on top by beating Affirmed who beat Alydar in all 3 legs. 

RAESFAN

From: RAESFAN

Jun-22

Are we talking the quality of the horse's career, or is it limited to his TC races? If the latter, no way Seattle Slew compares to Secretariat. I also don't believe SS beat better horses. as Sham, Forego, Royal And Regal, and Our Native were all Gr. 1 winners. "Big Red's" five week tour de force stands alone in the history of the sport. Rarely, if ever do you see a horse set three stakes records, at different distances, at different tracks, in consecutive races, in such a short time span. I won't comment on 2-13, but Secretariat is easily number 1, imo.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Jun-22

 zambito said Slew beat way better horses than Secretariat did.

Sham was pretty good up to 10 furlongs, for a long time he had the 2nd fasted derby time

Secretariat beat the clock and destroyed everybody at 12 furlongs.

he destroyed the track variant in all 3 races and set new ones. that says a lot

l agree with your top 3 and of course scored for 3 year old season.top 2 switched

citation later on lost to the same horse 4 times, noor 9f to 14f. citation was 2nd all 4 races.

Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

Jun-22

I didn't use any real criteria; just my opinion.  If you want an objective way to rank them, there's plenty of ways to do it.  One would be total lengths won by in the TC races:

Secretariat 36

American Pharoah 13 1/2

Seattle Slew 7 1/2

Justify 4 3/4

Affirmed -- around 1 3/4

 

As for American Pharoah, I just loved to watch him run.  But he also ran the 6th fastest Belmont ever as the only horse in 2015 to run in all three races, and won by 7 1/2 lengths, fourth largest margin of victory among TC winners in the Belmont. 

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