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Are 20 too many?   Triple Crown

Started 5/5/19 by GoForGin; 3285 views.
RAESFAN

From: RAESFAN

5/13/19

According to an article I read, the average field size in the history of the Derby is 13.2 horses, but the average field size since the turn of the century is 19.1, with no field smaller than 16. Clearly there were many fields 14 or less, prior to the last two decades.

twoshots

From: twoshots

5/13/19

Since 1981, there have been only three fields under 14 entries: 13 in 1997, 1985 and in 1980. The average field size 1981-1999 was 17.37.

  • Edited May 13, 2019 4:41 pm  by  twoshots
GoForGin

From: GoForGin

5/13/19

The 1994 Derby (won by GoForGin) had 14 runners 

GoForGin

From: GoForGin

5/13/19

I found this link. I am mistaken - I thought the Derby had a smaller field not too long ago. I guess I was thinking about betting interests. It used to be that horses owned by the same barn would go as an entry, and there was always a “field” entry consisting of several horses...

https://www.kentuckyderby.com/uploads/wysiwyg/assets/uploads/Field_Size__2017_.pdf

twoshots

From: twoshots

5/13/19

It's been a high number of entrants ever since 1980. In the 21st century, 19.05 average. 1981-1999, 17.37 average. 1970-80, 14.73. 1950-69, 13.55.

Here are the tabulations I made:

2019-2000: no years under 16 entries

1999-1990: 19,15,13,19,19,19,19,18,16,15

1989-1980: 15,17,17,16,13,20,20,19,21,13

1979-1970: 10,11,15,9,15,23,13,16,20,17

1969-1960: 8,14,14,15,11,12,9,15,15,13

1959-1950: 17,14,9,17,10,17,11,16,20,14

Gerh

From: Gerh

5/13/19

Dubai and Japan Horses are here to stay.CDI wants the revenue generated by the Japanese pools.

In reply toRe: msg 42
GoForGin

From: GoForGin

5/13/19

Sadly that’s true. 

twoshots

From: twoshots

5/14/19

GoForGin said:

I found this link. I am mistaken - I thought the Derby had a smaller field not too long ago. I guess I was thinking about betting interests. It used to be that horses owned by the same barn would go as an entry, and there was always a “field” entry consisting of several horses... https://www.kentuckyderby.com/uploads/wysiwyg/assets/uploads/Field_Size__2017_.pdf

Nice find, Gin!

Plus2lbs

From: Plus2lbs

5/14/19

Sorry to fill you in...it's a GAMBLING event..bigger pools the better..no?

So what if the last two American horses don't get in because of the points system..run better and qualify.

I'll take my lumps either way..

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

5/15/19

RAESFAN said...

a lot of TC runners over the years, have not been the same afterwards. It is asking a lot of these horses, so they are "lucky" to some degree to get out unscathed.

4 horses that make up the KY Derby superfecta can't / aren't runnning in the Preakness.  

Let's not fool ourselves.   The KY Derby isn't just asking a lot of these horses, the lasix and everything else that comes before it compounds it.  The derby is only the culmination of ruining them. 

(Winx is standing in her barn, shaking her head).  Just racing doesn't ruin horses.  We need to get out of denial.  

 

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