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Belmont Stakes   Triple Crown

Started 5/26/19 by Oldbettowin; 10911 views.
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Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

5/27/19

I edited and added to my post, had some ?? for ya.

Gerh

From: Gerh

5/27/19

For the Belmont,Tapit and Pletcher are playable angles.Intrepid Heart also has Buckpasser angle.Sir Winston is a great closer but may need a faster pace than he’ll get here

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

5/27/19

Subject: belmont winners tf & conduit 1867-2018

 
belmont winners tf & conduit
1867-2018
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family 1-(14)
1869-Fenian-1a
1969-Arts And Letters-1c-Chit Chat
1971-Pass Catcher-1c-Chit Chat
1981-Summing-1g-Springtime
1954-High Gun-1h-Noontide 
2018-Justify-1h-Noontide

1944-Bounding Home-1k-Reine De Naples
1972-Riva Ridge-1k-Reine De Naples
1968-Stage Door Johnny-1L-Hot water Bag
1984-Swale-1n-Popinjay
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Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

5/27/19

I used to use the mare family angle but found it is just "too broad" to help much?  There's 3 1-n's in here and 2 8-fs , then the "usual" 1x doxa, (which has become an overplayed angle at times)-----plus is it my imagination or is most of the field kinda *turfy* based on pedigree charts?

then there's always the possibility that a horse like Tapwrit, Creator, Ruler on Ice, etc.   is going to be the first conduit in his family.  :)  

 

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Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

5/27/19

BTW, smartyslew, I did use the family thing in the KY derby as part of my point system.  that's how War of Will came out so far towards top.  I don't know if it works as good for belmont as for derby, do you know?

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

5/28/19

Tacitus is 2-1 and WoW is 7/2 right now according to CBS sports?   

RAESFAN

From: RAESFAN

5/29/19

Looking back at previous Belmonts, I see that at the 2/3 mark(mile), you better be close. At a mile and half, closers will hang. Pace setters usually hang around for a piece because of that and the slow early fractions. I still like Sir Winston, but he has to be closer which I think he can be if the fractions play to par. Twenty-four second quarters up to a mile would be "fast", so he could be within 3 or 4 lengths off the pace. There are no speed horses entered so far. I expect a slow race with a "sprint" to the finish.

Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

5/29/19

There are no speed horses entered so far. I expect a slow race with a "sprint" to the finish.

This kind of worries me; whoever takes the lead might just keep going.  But which one?  It’s one of the reasons I have Intrepid Heart in the mix.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

5/29/19

He stumbled today in his work- Toss

Master Fencer has slight inflammation in his left front ankle. Getting x-rays now on both front ankles. Jogged satisfactory for the vets.

cubs.fan

From: cubs.fan

5/29/19

Joevia is going to the lead. Spinoff sits second.

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