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From: Wintertrian
6/1/19
Everyone's idea of a "bad sign" is different. For me it would be this: War of Will won't breeze before the Belmont
Right now I'll stick w/the ones I still like until the final PPs come out and I can see everybody next to each other.
Its one of the things I deduct for on my chart: "They have to breeze before the Belmont regardless of how hard they ran in the Derby and Preakness"
- Edited June 1, 2019 4:22 am by Wintertrian
From: Oldbettowin
6/1/19
Wonder if he breezed between the derby and the Preakness? Maybe just galloped, no idea.
From: Oldbettowin
6/1/19
Right now my head says WoW just ahead of Tacitus and Spinoff. But I’ve got to think WoW fades and gets caught; Spinoff should be close enough to do it. He wasn’t near the front in the derby but that was atypical for him in the slop. I think Tacitus will be too far back.
From: RAESFAN
6/1/19
I don't see a fast pace, so I don't think Tacitus will be far back. In his maiden win, he was only a shade over two lengths back at the half run in under :47. He has some tactical speed, and was far back in the TBD and the Wood, because of horses pretty much winging it early. I anticipate the race being run like a European grass race, where everyone will gallop along before picking it up at the mile marker. :24+, :48+, 1:13+, 1:38+, 2:03+, +2:29+; Slow pace, slow race! Having said that, now I've set it up for someone to try to steal the race on the front end!
From: Oldbettowin
6/1/19
You might be right about Tacitus, and the Belmont first half mile is usually run in about :48.4.
From: Wintertrian
6/1/19
I also think the pace will be slow, which is what gives me pause w/Tacitus. Seems like he benefitted from a fast pace in the Wood and Tampa Derby?
From: Gerh
6/1/19
Transparency in racing....we can dream.Just watched the Epsom Derby.Fantastic race.Baffert should watch Aiden O Briens interviews.The Guy always deflects attention from himself and always gives total credit to his whole crew.
From: cubs.fan
6/1/19
I think whoever is sitting second on the backstretch wins this race. Spinoff or Tax.
From: Wintertrian
6/1/19
cubs.fan said...
I think whoever is sitting second on the backstretch wins this race. Spinoff or Tax.
I'm thinking one of these for the win: Spinoff, Master Fencer, Sir Winston, Intrepid Heart. I have a weird little formula I made up that points to those 4.
"It could happen category but I don't think so" = Tacitus, Everfast
- Edited June 1, 2019 5:03 pm by Wintertrian