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Mention Max Player and Caracaro (both 40/1) but it would be a foolish pleasure to have them above in PP talent to Tizzy and Arty. In ticket construction they will all be key.
I see the race where 19 jocks go after the fav. Early. Target is on his back. And attempt to keep him inside scraping the rail. Nearly herding the NY bred. This action along the rail is where Tiz the Law lost at Churchill.
And again Castellano and Mike Smith can't make their colts run faster than what they can physically produce,but, butski..but ahh, they can conserve and/or not give up 2 maybe 4 riding seconds.
Caracaro,scratched from the derby!
We'll know if Pletcher scratches D. Post from Derby and points him to the Jim Dandy. I believe Rushie is a no go as well.
Might have to hop on Max Player as a closer for a super play, other than Tiz no other horse ran a 1 1/4 race. Maybe Max can pull off a Nehro type of derby and sneak into the trifectas??
Caracaro injured. I put a lot of stock in Castellano's riding. The Derby is one race he has not won. This will become a Derby with the fewest elite jockeys coming into the Derby with the colt that got them there.
I mean, Husker and I got a call to ride.
And in cases where the Derby jockey contingent knows the competitors/mount riding style, this will not be so.
That said. This would be a great betting race on an off track.
The key to handicapping now is to estimate where the runners can be at a mile and an eighth.It will be fast. At that call, the Hopefuls will be there. I don't think a closing lumberer can eat up enough final ground or be close enough at say 148..47 and change.
Dogs, what site did you find the early Brisnet pp's?
Available on the Kentucky Derby website
Dogs is playing with my mind....too early in the morning for that!...LOL
I had to do it that way as my message was moderated to you. 'THE Site' also has PPs for key grade races throughout the 1st September week.
I enjoy my everyday. But Derby week certainly adds a fine sauce to the pastabilities.
It's a Rock Hard Ten adventure.