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Kentucky Derby 2021 DogsUp Diary   Triple Crown

Started 2/28/21 by DogsUp; 45793 views.
princeofdoc

From: princeofdoc

Apr-19

Not only a downgrade, but one must look at initial choices.  He chose to go to BG stakes to ride Untreated for Todd over staying and riding Dream Shake or Rock Your World in the SA Derby....

DogsUp

From: DogsUp

Apr-19

Agree....a must! not to have 1 runner that has to be in the ticket/ a must be to cash...

With tosses and keys in wheel about $150/$200 for a dollar tri usually gets the job done.

 Dogs Tri tick this yr may be like my Always Dreaming ticket (damn favs winning 7 yrs now). 

It had 5 winners/must win on top. Then bunch below About $160 or $200 cost for ticket.  40/1 return. IF the fav ran out still had live tics.

  • Edited April 19, 2021 3:43 pm  by  DogsUp
SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

Apr-19

DogsUp said:

Wish you all/Steve a fun and winning Derby.

You, too, Dogs.  :)

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

Apr-19

That's true, too.  

I have nothing against Rosario as I've said more than once.

In the particular case of RYW, I thought Rispoli was especially well-suited.

It's in the rearview mirror now.

Onward & upward, Prince.  :)

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

Apr-19

Gambling on the KY Derby in particular, is one of the few decisions where I allow a little bit of karma, intuition, etc. to play a role.  

That would be where I insert the "luck" component.  

Some people just have "strings" of bad luck, just like jockeys and trainers have cold spells. Rick Porter for instance, as an owner.  So yea, I let a bit of that ju-ju stuff creep into my wagering. 

DogsUp

From: DogsUp

Apr-19

All

Since 1952 when Wood began running 9 vs 8.5 panels..2021 Wood slowest ever. Husker has cooked breakfast faster.

Even though they gave me a record day...They definitely are never in my win slots. Beat me.

chroses

From: chroses

Apr-19

Every time I bet on Rosario/horse I have lost (if my memory serves me correctly). Does anyone know how many Derbies he has run in and won?

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

Apr-19

Rosario had ridden the Derby 9 times.  He won on Orb in 2013.

I was just reading the article in DRF when you posted here so I had the info at my fingertips.  

I had a bad string of racing luck with Mike Luzzi back in the day & it came to a head when I bet a horse he was riding at AQU in the slop.  The horse (and Luzzi) had a clear lead & then yards from the wire, good ol' Mike came off - the horse went on to cross the wire first which kind of made it worse since there are no payouts for riderless winners!  :)

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

Apr-19

Wintertrian said:

Some people just have "strings" of bad luck

I resemble that remark.   :)

DogsUp

From: DogsUp

Apr-19

Rosario Won with Orb. 

Many great riders never won one.

Mario Gutierrez rode his 1st two consecutive Derbys and won both I'll Have Another and Nyquist. And within a close span.

The Castellanos, Rosarios ride in the major point races as call riders. Get good potentials and attend the big days on many mounts with exponential $ purposes. Beyond. Say yearly breeding right.

You go where the bread is.

Take a look at who rode Hot Rod Charlie in his Lousiana Derby. For instance. You know who? And rode colts with points that sustained problems so not in.

Joel is at 7 million (mid April) in purses won. Leader board # 1. Irad is next. Irad Ortiz rides tons of runners every day/card. NYRA is flush with purse $. Casino.

Agents get 25% of jock pay.

They jockey the trainers for best mounts. And this agent doesn't have to beg.

When Rosario left Calf for NY; jocks there were thrilled and as one jock said: He ties up so many horses.

  • Edited April 19, 2021 6:13 pm  by  DogsUp
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