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Bluegrass Stakes   Triple Crown

Started 3/31/21 by princeofdoc; 3347 views.

From: princeofdoc


I just re-watched his 2 races, and he looked like a completely different horse......could be that he didn't like being inside, and couldn't understand the constant whipping around far turn/into the stretch while not in contention.

Next race, quite wide on the turns, big stride, all on his own, ridden more intuitively by Saez.  Saez of course stays on EQ, but Rosario leaves Dream Shake to come cross country to ride.  If Untreated runs well and hits the board, he'll have to decide between Concert Tour/Hot Rod/Untreated.

I like him here, though we'll have to see how he runs without Lasix...his mile time in his win at TB was faster than Helium same day in the TB Derby.  

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G


Yes, Untreated improved leaps & bounds from Race 1 to Race 2 to point out the obvious.  He still needs to take another step forward.   BG will be a big class test as the pressure of pace will be a new experience for him.

Has the makings of a nice horse though.




Untreated is intriguing, but I like Highly Motivated.

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G


Essential Quality & Highly Motivated appear to be, at least on paper, the two most logical choices for the win.  Watch the board.

Untreated is only interesting as a price horse, even 10/1 is cutting it close in terms of value, IMO.

Untreated is untested.   


From: Northof64


Thats exactly what makes me wonder. Big day out west but Rosario travels east to ride a first time stakes for Pletcher?  Things that make you go hmmmmm.  Sidenote. Is Johnny V still Pletchers go to or did I miss a change?


From: smartyslew


That's a good Question!!

JV is riding Medina Spirit for Baffert AT Santa Anita !

Must be the one for him !


From: DogsUp


Rosario/ East coast connections jockey/NYRA - Florida winter; is at Keenland to ride in the richest Big day - big purses money races. 

Mounts in 9 of 10 races.

3 M/L favorites.

5 aboard 2nd M/Liners

JV is at Santa Anita for Baffert to win a place, get his Derby horse and Baff has a rider for this one should they win the shot at a Derby gate.

  • Edited April 2, 2021 7:39 pm  by  DogsUp

From: Northof64


9 of 10 i did not know 


From: Wintertrian


smartyslew said...

Good Luck, This horse is scary, Team Valor moved him from Chad Brown to Pletcher after one race.

WHY would Irwin move Untreated to Pletcher, who is 1 for 41 over the last 5 years graded stakes on dirt, going long off a maiden win?

Maybe Untreated is scary, but I find that statistic about as scary as you can get.  

That said, over the last decade I've come to like Pletcher a bit more than the abject cheaters he's surrounded by.  He seems a lot more on the up-and-up than many of them. 

I look for his horse to make some noise this summer.  I will not touch him now at 10-1.