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Ark Derby   Triple Crown

Started 4/4/21 by princeofdoc; 3330 views.

From: Oldbettowin


Lol!  Serves them right if so.

In reply toRe: msg 29

From: Wintertrian


For the record, any horse out of the AR Derby this year is far down on my ticket, if on there at all. 
Caddo River can't rate, and pretty sure Concert Tour can't, either...they are not natural stalkers, and unless you think either one can go gate to wire, I just don't think either would have enough left over for that extra distance in the Derby.

Super Stock isn't "super" enough in anything, but I'm willing to see how he progresses.  

Looking elsewhere for a KY Derby winner.   Of course Baffert has between now and then to give majick/contamination so who knows what kind of *peak* CT will achieve in the next few weeks, eh?

I just wanted Caddo River to redeem himself, that was all.   I still think he should skip it and go in the Preakness.  





I think Super Stock is improving. Third off the layoff in the Derby might put him right there.


From: DogsUp


& All.. When one hears a drummer play 4 or 5 tunes or looks at 6 to 10 pieces of an artist's works. Is what it is. And like evaluating a colt's body of work visual,PPs, chart and other info read.

If the colt is an ordinary of the 20 KDyers, got to go longer than how he got/gets to 9 fl.

Their next work/performance they are not likely to come out swinging like Buddy Rich or looking like a Picasso.


From: smartyslew


Winter, I'm like you,

I think the first 3 in the Arkansas Derby are distance challenged

The 2 speedballs were rank and  finished 2nd and 3rd,

The winner gave the Illusion that he was closing and the splits suggest the 2 speedballs were backing up

and this was on a fast track.  final time 1:50.92. Caddo and Concert came home in over 40 seconds ,last 3 furlongs.

Super Stock last Q was 26.22,... last I heard Both front Runners are on hold for the Derby.

Gary West is leaving it up to Baffert to decide. Baffert might take him  to CD to see his works on that track.

Arkansas Derby Splits: 
Caddo River-2nd by 2 1/2  Arkansas Derby
22.62, 23.89, 24,74, 26.49, 13.68
22.62, 46.51,71.25, 97.74,111.42, last Q 26.93
Concert Tour-3rd by 2 1/2  Arkansas
22.72, 23.89, 24.67, 26.36, 13.80
22.72, 46.61, 71.28,97.64, 111.44 last Q 27.08 
Super Stock-1st by 2 1/2   bsf 92 Arkansas Derby
22.92, 24.00,24.73,26.10, 13.17
22.92, 46.92, 71.65,97.75, 110.92 last Q26.22



Slowest Arkansas Derby since Overanalyze won in 2013. I was fooled by Concert Tour's Rebel Stakes, visually, it was a carbon copy of American Pharoah's run.


From: smartyslew


Is this Mixed Messages , was the Carbon Copy of American Pharoah's run positive or negative.



Thought it was a positive at the time, then he laid an egg in the Arkansas Derby. Not the world beater he looked like he'd be.