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Thanks for sharing all your hard work Smarty. Hope it pays off for you in a big way!! North
Thanks North, Your welcome , maybe it will help somebody, good Luck !
Nice stats, smartyslew!
Question: How does one estimate closely late pace figures for a horse like RYW when he was geared down.
Is there a method by which to do that?
Because obviously I can't go with what my Brisnet PPs say.
I use my eyeballs and look for a replay to refresh my memory if I haven't noted it ,in this case I did note it i
even tho I'll never forget this ride. I noted also in his gallop out he was 20 lengths ahead of anybody else, so many
little things for ones DD. I save some dd for myself, any data I put out, It's nice to get feed back,
you said "Because obviously I can't go with what my Brisnet PPs say. "
I can't either, I do dd from the Race chart for the race. not from bris and note the tidbits from the chart
and then I watch the replay and look for highlighted notes from the chart and most of the time I don't
put that in public. My data is for others to look at and choose to either run with it or do more of their DD,
from it. I will do highlights from the charts on some data like bumped at start, etc after the draw with
a full field.
That's fine. Understand.
I wasn't addressing the question *directly* to you but thanks for sharing.........
I am/was wondering how other people do it. How do you come up with a figure when there is none that fits into the "publishing" mode on PPs.
It's like my comment about mud/slop. People only look at races. Horses who are stabled at tracks in barns where it rains cats n' dogs work and gallop in slop very frequently. PPs don;t tell you that. It's uber important, as is their breeding for such a task, even if they don't barn where there is a lot of rain.
I'm sorry I thought you were talking about things like late pace and geared down not on the PP's,
or similar like bumped at start, track bias, bumped at turn or 8 wide coming home,
The PP's are usually for once on the track.
I don't use the PP's at all for the Derby.....I watch all the races, make notes, go from there. PP's, for me, are for races where I don't know the horses, and am unfamiliar with their races
An example of something the PP's don't disclose.....Known Agenda's race in the Sam Davis, coming in 5th. Watch the race, see just how full of run he was. Not a surprise how well he ran next out. Not sure how I feel about his chances in the Derby, but I wouldn't be surprised if he ran well