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You guys are going to have to help me out here. The horse that finished 8 1/2 lengths behind EQ last out (not the BG) beats the one that finished 2 lengths closer to RYW in the Santa Anita derby but that reflects well on the SA? And Sitten on Go, beaten 18 lengths in the BG, finished only a head behind Defunded, who was 7 lengths closer in the SA.
The speed held up for six furlongs but they ran the last quarter in 26 and two so it’s not like speed was carrying.
This scoring is the Pedigree and the performance added together for all of the derby Entrants
My computer ate some of my data and I don't have the time to redo some of Brooklyn Strong and Keepmeinmind
data .there data is incomplete.
Looks like Beyer speed numbers did pretty good
8. Medina Spirit, 15-1 99
7. Mandaloun, 15-1 98-- 2 back
9. Hot Rod Charlie, 8-1 99
14. Essential Quality, 2-1 97
6. O Besos, 20-1 96
10. Midnight Bourbon, 20-1 96
The first 5 were in the top part of my chart . In The First 9 listed , imo that's competitive the winning time 2:01.02
The bottom 10 didn't finish in the first 5
Here is how message 3 this thread did. my closing numbers did a little better than Bris late pace numbers did'!
don't forget Mandaloun jogged the last furlong.
I noticed that! Great homework
Thank you very much Dogs, that means a lot !
How message 6 did in the Derby
Medina Spirit is the 2nd derby winner with a Nor Dancer/ Turn-to nick, Charismatic is the Other.
He didn't Qualify for a Conduit , now he does Family 2n Donneta Classification IS, same as Sea Bird (S) chef, Langfuhr
others from that family Point Given, Key to the Mint, and others.
Bred for 10f .
How Message 54 did.
There was no Ran/Mr P sire lines in the top 5..
Medina Spirit has 2 lines of La Troienne in a passing position
He's Loaded with all 4 Large Heart sires in A passing Position
he has both first crop Sire and Dam that' been positive the last few years
La Troienne and Princequillo