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More5/9/21
GMAFB.
The state troopers were knocking on my door this morning as I readied for church.
They served me with search warrant papers and confiscated all my handicapping materials and downloaded all my Forum DogsUp 2021and 9 years back Derby Diary notes.
My stuff will not be returned to me as I had drafted and won with Medina Spirit in our handicapping contest here on the forum. Alleged that Baffert called me and said he is the Tom Brady of Derby wins and told me to act surprised when colt wins.
My blood sample came back positive for chianti and a side of baked ziti.
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5/9/21
Hey Steve! Yes, all over the news...
Can you tell me what the effect of Betamethasone is? Is any amount legal? Was it ever legal? And is it covered up by the use of Lasix?
Thanks!
5/9/21
Baffert said, “It’s disturbing. It’s an injustice to the horse. . . . I don’t know what’s going on in racing right now, but it’s not right. I don’t feel embarrassed, but I feel wronged.”
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks!" Shakespeare(Hamlet)
5/9/21
DogsUp said:My blood sample came back positive for chianti and a side of baked ziti.
Haha! Hey, it's not the ziti, it's the marinara. :)
5/9/21
It is an anti inflammatory.I believe 10 picograms is the legal limit.Medina Spirit’s sample had 21 picograms.I don’t think Lasix would mask it, but it would dilute it
5/9/21
More importantly does Brad Cox enter Mandaloun in the Preakness since (albeit decided in the courts...) he might have a shot at the Triple Crown?
5/9/21
Betamethasone is a legal drug, class C in Kentucky. That means it's okay in training but must not be used 14 days or less prior to a race. It's a (steroidal) pain med with anti-inflammatory properties...this is all according to varying sources.
Lasix masks drugs - that's a given.
Churchill has said the following:
In response to the positive result and "given the seriousness of the alleged offense," Churchill Downs Incorporated, the parent company of Churchill Downs, has suspended Baffert from entering any horses at Churchill Downs Racetrack.
"Failure to comply with the rules and medication protocols jeopardizes the safety of the horses and jockeys, the integrity of our sport and the reputation of the Kentucky Derby and all who participate. Churchill Downs will not tolerate it," it said in a statement.
Churchill Downs also said if the findings were upheld, Medina Spirit will be disqualified and Mandaloun will be declared the winner of last weekend's Kentucky Derby.
5/9/21
I suppose that would depend on how quickly the split sample comes back & how it comes back.
According to reports, the horse was twice over the legal limit.
5/9/21
Maybe it was the Deep (horse racing) State? Sent in an agent who contaminated the horse!!!