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2021 Epsom Derby   European Racing

Started 6/1/21 by SameSteve G; 4793 views.
SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

6/1/21

In contrast to the anemic Belmont Stakes, The Epsom Derby (to be run on 6/5, as well) has a robust field of 16 set to go.  Here are horses & the early odds from Paddy Power.  It's listed in the Racing Post as The Cazoo Derby.   Damn, no regard for history whatsoever.  Investec was bad but this...this is horrendous.  LOL.

  • Bolshoi Ballet – 6/4
  • High Definition – 5/1
  • John Leeper – 7/1
  • Mac Swiney – 7/1
  • Mohaafeth – 9/1
  • Hurricane Lane – 10/1
  • Third Realm – 12/1
  • Van Gogh – 14/1
  • Sir Lamorak – 20/1
  • One Ruler – 25/1
  • Youth Spirit – 25/1
  • Adayar – 33/1
  • Gear Up – 33/1
  • Lone Eagle – 33/1
  • The Mediterranean – 33/1
  • Southern Lights – 40/1
  • Kyprios – 66/1
  • Mojo Star – 100/1
  • Seattle Sound – 200/1

Anyone care to put their 2 cents in.  I cannot stand  that Aidan O'Brien has 6 entries & his son has 1.

Preliminarily, I like the 5, Hurricane Lane - Buick for Appleby.  10-1 antepost.

TexSquared

From: TexSquared

6/1/21

I usually use OddsChecker so you get more than just one bookmaker's line:

The Derby 2021 Betting Odds- Winner | Horse Racing | Oddschecker

Not a fan of the name either.   At least ours wasn't the Kentucky Fried Derby when it was under YUM sponsorship!

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

6/1/21

Kentucky Fried Derby!  Haha.  Has a ring to it.  (wink)

OddsChecker is good.  So is that other site you've now linked to twice for Int'l PPs.  I put it in my favorites folder when you gave the link the first time & promptly forgot about it.

My memory ain't what it used to be.

TexSquared

From: TexSquared

6/1/21

I'm surprised the Epsom Derby didn't pick up either Emirates, Longines or Qatar (QIPCO) sponsorship, those three seem to want everything. Emirates and Longines worldwide, Qatar focuses on England and France.

Where you won't see it happen is Royal Ascot (and similarly the Queen's Plate here in Canada), some rule regarding races where the purse is (even partially) funded by the royal family.  By comparison seems almost every major stakes in the UK has had a revolving door of sponsor names.  Cheltenham Festival's schedule sounds like the British version of NASCAR...  

pianot

From: pianot

6/1/21

Steve- guess I'm an idiot but been to all free sites to find this race, including Tex's. Where are you finding them? Any help would be appreciated.

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TexSquared

From: TexSquared

6/2/21

The past performances will EVENTUALLY show up on this page but I find it's not updated daily, seems whoever handles it only looks at it every 2-3 days.  Since the Derby is on Saturday the free PP's should be there no later than Thursday. Just keep checking until you see Saturday June 5 in there.  Oh yes the Epsom Oaks card is on Friday June 4.

https://www.hollywoodraces.com/horse-betting/free-international-past-performances

But for now if you want to see entries (but posts haven't been drawn yet), go here:

https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/racecards/2021-06-05/epsom-downs/racecard/622849/cazoo-derby-group-1-british-champions-series

pianot

From: pianot

6/2/21

Thanks much.

Gerh

From: Gerh

6/3/21

Final field of 12 for the Derby.Bolshoi Ballet is the only Aiden entry.I agree with you on Hurricane Lane.With no rabbits entered by Aiden,the early pace might not be too quick,which should help Hurricane Lane.I am not a huge Ryan Moore fan but Bolshoi should crack the top 3.I will also use One Ruler

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SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

6/3/21

Glad to see that O'Brien's entries were pared down.  

Hurricane Lane is holding at 9-1 over on OddChecker.  That's a good price for that horse.  I would still take him at 5-1.

I don't get why Mac Swiney is getting so much play, stretching out and if his in/out career pattern holds, due for a clunker.  Maybe the punters are betting Dettori?

I think I'll keep it simple & back Hurricane for the win at 5-1 or higher.  Otherwise, I'll just watch.

Of course, the chalk would be no surprise.  

Good luck, Ger.

Gerh

From: Gerh

6/3/21

There is an interesting article in Bloodhorse about “the speed gene”.Sounds a little like dosage and it seems to be why Bolger thinks the distance will suit Mac Swiney.Ground could be a little quick for him

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