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2021 Epsom Derby   European Racing

Started 6/1/21 by SameSteve G; 8038 views.
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SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

6/3/21

Does look like a nice edition of the race.

I think your pick is live & offering some value.

Saffron Beach is interesting to me.  Another stretchout on a 3rd back effort with competitive RPR.

I would need the full 11-1 or higher to put a flyer down on her.  20-1 would be better!  :)

Gerh

From: Gerh

6/3/21

I think she could finish third.Could get a little weary in the last furlong but worth a shot,especially if the price drifts up

Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

6/3/21

I don't get why Mac Swiney is getting so much play

Galileo top and bottom.

 

I knew Galileo’s offspring had been really successful in this race in recent years and thought I would check out some recent winners’ pedigrees.  The last 10 winners all came from the Northern Dancer sireline, 5 via Galileo, 3 from a different Sadlers Wells, and 2 from Green Desert (Danzig), but only with a RAN in the bmsireline.  You have to go back 11 years to find a winner not from the ND line and guess who is in the bmsireline?  Sadlers Wells lol.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

6/3/21

Which Dam has 8 Stake  Winners and is a Rasmussen Factor in the 3rd Generation

in one of the entrants ?

2 of her sons won the Epsom !!!

ShaddyisBack

From: ShaddyisBack

6/3/21

thanks for putting this up. Although looking at these PP I dont see a lot you can use to separate these horses, other than speed figures

ShaddyisBack

From: ShaddyisBack

6/3/21

Mrs. Prospector ?

I think if you like Mac Swiney, then dont forget ONE RULER... 

I know NONE of these Jockeys... Like "buick" did he get off of One ruler or ON Hurricane lane... Is Doyle better than Buick ?

Anyway, sticking my nose in where it doesnt belong... Have a good summer guys

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

6/3/21

No doubt, a plus.  I just rewatched the Irish 2000 Guineas from May 22 & he led throughout & was all out to hold off his rivals.  A very nice win on soft/heavy going.  It appears he enjoys the soft, the heavy and the yielding going.  That's when he wins.   When he meets good ground, he is beaten rather soundly.  The going is rated good at Epsom (as of today & projected to Saturday)

I'm ambivalent about him since he also likes to run prominently.  No Dettori, BTW.  I misread the Racing Post card.  Kevin Manning has the ride.

I think he's currently 7-1 at OddsChecker.   I do not think Jim Bolger would have entered him unless he thinks he has a solid shot.  Hmmm.

I prefer Hurricane Lane.  :)

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

6/3/21

His best numbers are soft , very high as you know. Looks higher than others on firmer.

Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

6/3/21

Must be Urban Sea?

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

6/3/21

yes sir ? Did you find the contender ?

BTW she won the Arc !

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