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the 3 from the Florida Derby run differently and the element problems and 2 of them forwardly placed
in the Derby and Simplification not, Finishing 4th here and Epicenters style with good splits
Suggest to me the first 4 in the Derby got good rides and or good trips or both. they earned It imo
I like it if a horse can run each split 25.40 or faster when they grow into the 9 furlong splits and or part of growing
only one slow Quarter in a race sometimes is needed because of the pace.. Jenny Rees couldn't figure out how to
do Final Quarter times in 8.5f , even 9f races and others not mentioning any names when Dr Romans formula works better and final 12.70 1/8 final and 25.40 final Quarters are more accurate in hundreds and not using fifths and 13 Final 1/8 is a joke.
They used those numbers and struggled because they were not good a math and came up with 13 second final 1.8
and gave up on final q times. and now many use that systemin or 5/16 time or 3/8 time.
from Message 1111 How they did in the Peter Pan today
Winner We the People wired the field: won by 10 1/4 lengths
|233, :471, 1:111, 1:353, 1:481 (:23.66, :47.24, 1:11.25, 1:35.63, 1:48.27)|
23.66, 23.58,24.01, 24.38, 12.64 Last 1/8 , 1.48.27 final, Last Q 24.83
Pars 91 97/89 speed 97 None Peter Pan G3
I must not be good at it either because I just got RS’ final Q in the Jeff Ruby at 24.99. Of course I didn’t even look at him before the derby so it wouldn’t have mattered.
Dangerous style for the Belmont! If he can set a moderate, fairly uncontested pace, he could easily hit the board!
103 Beyer.If he gets his way on the lead,he could win.
Finally a race he didn't get in to trouble, He needs to do that again with that good action displayed in this race.
Will Pratt be on him ?
Preakness Post Position 5/21/22 Pimlico
|1||Simplification||Antonio Sano||1.22||John Velazquez||6-1|
|2||Creative Minister||Ken McPeek||1.91||Brian Hernandez Jr.||10-1|
|3||Fenwick||Kevin McKathan||2.50||Florent Geroux||50-1|
|4||Secret Oath||D. Wayne Lukas||8.60||Luis Saez||9-2|
|5||Early Voting||Chad Brown||1.00||Jose Ortiz||7-2|
|6||Happy Jack||Doug O'Neill||2.38||Tyler Gaffalione||30-1|
|7||Armagnac||Tim Yakteen||1.57||Irad Ortiz Jr.||12-1|
|8||Epicenter||Steve Asmussen||0.60||Joel Rosario||6-5|
|9||Skippylongstocking||Saffie Joseph Jr.||3.00||Junior Alvarado||20-1|
5/20/22 Pimlico : Black Eyed Susan : Looks like a Betting Race