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2021 2 year olds   Handicapping

Started 7/2/21 by smartyslew; 140276 views.
Msg 1228 of 1266 to sovereign1sovereign1 
In reply toRe: msg 1220
Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

Jun-11

Well of course MoW and Hyperion are but WtP and Skippy are the only two in the race that have a dam in their tail first five generations that have one of those two sirelines.  8 of the last 11 winners had the same.  That was as far as I got lol.  Da ‘Tara too but not Sarava I don’t think.  

 
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Msg 1229 of 1266
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Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

Jun-11

Da ‘Tara had Hyp twice.

 
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Msg 1230 of 1266 to smartyslewsmartyslew 
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princeofdoc

From: princeofdoc

Jun-11

I love Nest here.....will be boxing with a few

 
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Msg 1231 of 1266
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smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Jun-13

The Belmont Stakes this year pre race was full of misinformation
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Brought to our attention by Steve G. race week.
He noted how the ML was off, Others included my self noted how other 
numbers were off that people pay for that were off mostly in my View
The last race info and Classification made for style was off for the last race.
Pre race The derby winner took himself out of contention in my view and some had that
baked in before it happened, also in my view The cappers as a group were the leading indicator of getting the race right. I mean The race Time favorite Won, where is the
ML Favorite a Front runner wins last on a good wet sealed  track g3@9f after
in Previous race G1 7th place in the Arkansas Derby and finished 4th Lone Speed
faded after 10f in only his 5th race tough for an Apollo(ML) horse a good effort, First 2 finishers are 10f type, and I think if Nest hadn't Stumbled, Bumped and Rush up to get a better position would of given Mo Donegal all he could handle, instead losing by 3 lengths.
Nest a legit 10f runner will be running in 9f  races against 9f types and with luck
might win some of them . imo
 
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Msg 1232 of 1266 to smartyslewsmartyslew 
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sovereign1

From: sovereign1

Jun-13

Who made the M/L for The Belmont? Battaglia again?

 
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Msg 1233 of 1266 to sovereign1sovereign1 
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smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Jun-13

Whoever does it for NYRA I would think

We The People 2-1, Skippy 20-1 Nest 8-1  Rich Strike 7-2  Creative Minister 6-1

Mo Donegal 5-2  Golden Glider 20-1 Barber Road 10-1

 
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Msg 1234 of 1266 to sovereign1sovereign1 
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Gerh

From: Gerh

Jun-14

I think Eric Donovan makes the line at Belmont 

 
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Msg 1235 of 1266 to GerhGerh 
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sovereign1

From: sovereign1

Jun-14

So bad, especially for a G1.

 
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Msg 1236 of 1266 to smartyslewsmartyslew 
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princeofdoc

From: princeofdoc

Jun-15

The winner of the Peter Pan, with the best speed number, was understandably made the morning line favorite......the fact his body of work was not really deserving, nor that his recent win was on off track notwithstanding

 
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Msg 1237 of 1266 to princeofdocprinceofdoc 
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smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Jun-17

We The People Made the Favorite after 2 back in a g1 race Arkansas  beyer of 73 jumps 30 points in a g3  Peter Pan workout

103 against who on a good sealed track at 9f with the worse g1 number in the Whole field.

This was a back speed group of 2 back except for the Derby and Oaks runners including Rich Strike before

his head case prerace. He was lucky to be lone speed and never raced at 2  and no threat to him the first 10 f

by default, I agree he gets points for lone speed and dangerous,  Not ML in my view with other g1 type that are 12f type

and tested. finished 4th 7 furlongs back .

 
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