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Thanks for your efforts to bring the lists back after they were deleted in error. I renamed this thread to reflect what you're posting now.
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EDIT Chart for race won by Speed Boat Beach in track record time. great out of the gate, difference imo
Edit- Bafferts 3.55 Million AE is scratched in today race 6, He has 3 in here,
NY) Hejazi 12d, 13c (8) Bernardini / Meda D'oro *3.55 mil 8-5 Baffert, Mike Smith #11 post
2 year old BEYER leader board, 9/11/22 : Historical guidelines for a Derby Winner is a 92 beyer
or better in a race at 2 year olds. Last year seems like we had 4 or 5 for the year.
This year We have 9 times a 2 year old was awarded 92 Beyer or better in these early sprints
4 times triple digits. I think this is impressive looking by eyeballs, Some races by track Variants
Show Caution by raw time , That can be a mirage on a souped up track. Suggest do your own DD
The first thing I look at with the speed numbers looking for 2 turn prospects for this tool, who's
numbers are going up stretching compared to their sprints and or numbers down. 6f-7f-8f-8.5, 9f.
and any of them can take a jump up at any time.
2-year-olds: male or female
|Speed Boat Beach||DMR||10 Sep||5 1/2F||104|
|Cave Rock||DMR||13 Aug||6 1/2F||101|
|Munnys Gold||MTH||17 Jun||5F||101|
|Hejazi||DMR||10 Sep||5 1/2F||100|
|Echo Again||SAR||20 Aug||6 1/2F||94|
|Tyler's Tribe||PRM||27 Aug||6F||94|
|Chocolate Gelato||SAR||14 Aug||6F||92|
Still find it hard to believe that Cave Rock's 2nd race scores a lower number than the first, especially with the competition in the second. But I suppose coming up with those numbers are above my pay grade :)
As DM is the only track I visit in person each year, and having seen the races of the top colts listed, my eyes tell me they are special, and definitely worth following. I'll be very interested in who races at Santa Anita American Pharoah Stakes on Oct. 8th.....
|STAKES. 1 1/16 Mile Dirt. Purse $300,000. Iroquois S. (Grade 3). FOR TWO YEAR OLDS. (04:55 PM) (9)|
|1||Hayes Strike E4 4th||2 C||122||Hernandez, Jr. Brian Joseph||McPeek Kenneth G. homebred|
|2||Zaici E5||2 R||122||Cohen David||Courville Ricky|
|3||Damon's Mound P6||2 C||122||Saez Gabriel||Lovell Michelle homebred|
|4||Jin TongS4||2 C||122||Bejarano Rafael||O'Neill Doug F.|
|5||Curly Jack EP8 1st||2 C||122||Morales Edgar||Amoss Thomas M.|
|6||Jace's Road EP6 3rd|
I'm expecting Echo Again to run huge and be the favorite for the BC Juvy.....
Its only September we have a long way to go, when a 2 yr old starts stretching out ,I look for speed numbers
to compare to their sprints , most two turn types speed numbers stretching out equal or are better than there sprint numbers
of course there are exceptions to that and by the time March rolls around we will have a better idea. Its something
I look at and note for all 2 yr olds I'm Interested in. Its easy to look at and doesn't take much time,.
I don't know if he is that good yet, Many good looking prospects this early, I am a big Gun Runner fan,
Damon's Mound is another good looking prospect in this race I like a lot. Beta Bob in his 2 year old talk
this week mentioned him at the top of 2 yr olds owned by somebody else that look real good.
I see some gurus pick #6 Jaces Road , Quality Road/Silver Deputy : Geroux/ Cox as the value of the Single digit
horse's , 6-1, L don't know where they got that number from..