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2022 2-year-olds/2023 3-year-olds   Handicapping - HRN Horse-Races.Net

Started 7/2/21 by smartyslew; 258884 views.
TexSquared

From: TexSquared

Mar-25

LV odds much different from the UK bookies?

https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/international/kentucky-derby/winner

I know eventually the odds all start to match up since the bookmakers bet amongst themselves to balance the books.  

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Mar-26

This is interesting to me, Two Phils Catapults to the top of the Beyer Leaderboard
Awarded a 101 Beyer, for his win on the AW at Turfway Park. This is a first AW Turfway Park #1
and the splits this year are the best I have seen or remember for Turfway, Anybody know
if they changed something to their Track Surface.

3-year-olds: male or female
through 03/25/2023
HORSE TRK DATE DIST BEYER FIGURE
Two Phil's TP 25 Mar 1 1/8M 101
Hard to Figure SA 04 Feb 1 1/16M 100
Newgate SA 04 Feb 1 1/16M 100
Practical Move SA 04 Mar 1 1/16M 100
Hejazi SA 15 Jan 6 1/2F 99
Forte GP 04 Mar 1 1/16M 98
Worcester SA 04 Feb 1 1/16M 98
Bishops Bay FG 18 Feb 6F 97
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TexSquared

From: TexSquared

Mar-26

They replaced the old, slow Polytrack with the slightly faster Tapeta in December 2021. So this was the second Jeff Ruby run over the new surface.

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/238585/cdi-putting-in-new-synthetic-track-at-turfway-park

DogsUpWired

From: DogsUpWired

Mar-26

Below is what is posted on Leader Board to differentiate Dirt figure vs Poly figure

(A) denotes race on all-weather surface

Evident the notation was left off the edition. On the horse (A), not  at the bottom of the list.

As Tex points out the new surface is a prime factor for faster race times, surface provides faster, and numbahs rise.


 

TexSquared

From: TexSquared

Mar-26

Having walked on both Poly (at Woodbine and Turfway) and Tapeta (at Woodbine) I can tell you Tapeta is much faster.  It's firmer overall and feels a lot closer to natural dirt in terms of the "grip" you get on it, compared to Polytrack which really did feel like you were walking on a thick layer of lint from your clothes dryer mixed with some pillow fill.  That's a slight exaggeration but there's a clear difference. Poly is a lot "spongier".

Tapeta also has a tendency to clog up tread on your boots/shoes, like dirt can. Poly never did that.

DogsUpWired

From: DogsUpWired

Mar-26

What is your take? 

In general 

It seems to me that runners move up from Tap surface to dirt for performance.

Yet to grass not so much.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Mar-26

Here's the Full Beyer Leaderboard 3/25/23 I showed a few  at the top earlier to high light
Two Phils in a AW race  at the top 101 Beyer. You can tell today is Sunday the Interns
usually miss the AW notification races. At Least that's there story for years.

3-year-olds: male or female
through 03/25/2023
HORSE TRK DATE DIST BEYER FIGURE
Two Phil's TP 25 Mar 1 1/8M 101
Hard to Figure SA 04 Feb 1 1/16M 100
Newgate SA 04 Feb 1 1/16M 100
Practical Move SA 04 Mar 1 1/16M 100
Hejazi SA 15 Jan 6 1/2F 99
Forte GP 04 Mar 1 1/16M 98
Worcester SA 04 Feb 1 1/16M 98
Bishops Bay FG 18 Feb 6F
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smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Mar-27

Message 1848 Did This help anybody hit the tri, let me know if it did it paid $192.45 for 50 cents

for this tricky Race and I heard from somebody adding Disarm to the mix  they hit the

trifecta, and the dollar Exacta $ 47.30

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Mar-27

That was good DD North, Good Luck with Skinner ,makes more sense.

Northof64

From: Northof64

Mar-27

Thanks Smarty. I typically do not bet a future but my friends were in LV and asked so I gave them my 2 cents. We all bet enough to cover a flight to collect during the Belmont LoL!! Fingers crossed.

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