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2022 2-year-olds/2023 3-year-olds   Handicapping - HRN Horse-Races.Net

Started 7/2/21 by smartyslew; 350284 views.
Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

4/27/23

Only Big Brown, Justify, and Curlin entered Ky Derby off only 3 races and they had speed figures in the 100s.

Kingsbarns and Mage trying to do this. Of course the kind of speed that the other 3 above had would probably not be necessary in this year's rendition.  Kingsbarns has very good final Q numbers though.   


Something I was curious about looking thru my old notes......how the synth at TP compares to the former synth at KEEN where Bluegrass used to be run on AW.   Dullahan ran 3rd in the Derby and his last Q on synth there at KEEN was 23.60.   Nobody close to that this year. 
 

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

4/28/23

I don't know how to compare those 2 AW tracks , Tex  knows

Dullahan race was fast early     6f  12.42 5 1/2 2 hds behind   mile  36.26  4 L behind        final time 47.24 9f
Kingsbarns real slow early 6f  14.69  1st   mile 39.13 1st (14 lengths slower than dullhahan)
 9 3/16 race for kingsbarns 18.20 last 3/16  1.57.33
BTW Street Sense 2nd by a nose in the Bluegrass, Animal Kindom 1st in the Spiral,
Rich Strike 3rd in the Ruby Steaks all 3 last prep was on AW before they won the Derby.
Mine That Bird I think raced on aw at 2 years old.
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SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

4/28/23

I finally watched this skipping through.  I agree with Adolphson.  Bombs away - Continuar across the board. 50/25/25 WPS.  That's my hundred.  Done.

Overall, a pretty good vid for those who want some info on the Japanese attempting to pull off a minor miracle and win an American Classic.  The Derby, no less, way outside their comfort zone.  We will see how they have adapted this year.

For me, it's the only part of the race that is interesting as I am cynical and jaded about the US Sport.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

4/28/23

I got some tidbits I didn't know, The bad part of the track for 13/16 , for shippers that don't know

for example and a few others for training  styles are helpful.

A miracle indeed .

princeofdoc

From: princeofdoc

4/28/23

This was great, thanks for sharing.....I really liked the panel, they were all better than the actual podcast host!

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

4/28/23

your welcome, all 4 are new to me,  I agree 100 % though, thanks

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

4/28/23

Two Phils was in races with more early speed opponents that masked
his early speed.
bris ave Race Early race leaders
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Two Phils          98
Reincarnate      96
Practical Move   95  front wraps 3 back
Angel Of Empire  94 Lasix 4&6 back 2 yr old
Cyclone Mischief  94 L 4 back
Rocket Can       93
Mandarin Hero   92
Verifying           90   L 3 back 
Forte                90
smartyslew

From: smartyslew

4/29/23

Anybody like Major Dudes work today, Maybe TAP is going to run the Turfer in the Derby to pickup

a piece.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

4/29/23

typical Pletcher work put the speed on the outside and one that needs more foundation

outside just for time, Do it the other way the  inexperance speed on the inside, He must be

afraid Kingsbarns will run off being inside and Major Dude catching him.

Remember the Year he did that with Uncle Mo Outside and Stay Thirsty inside

and Thristy melted, Major Dude didn't  melt, Did he even reach out his stride like  

Kingsbarns did trying to catchup to him, I think he will be dual entered and if Tap likes his PP

he will keep him in. 

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