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2022 2-year-olds/2023 3-year-olds   Handicapping - HRN Horse-Races.Net

Started 7/2/21 by smartyslew; 311189 views.
smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Jun-3

Subject: 2014 belmont 8 gen female linebreeding  Tapit Sire win, with strong PrinceQ Sires and Mares both sides
(ST Simon)  WON by a Head
1st tapit/pleasant colony 3L P/N
TONALIST C, 2011 DP = 5-17-18-1-1 (42) DI = 2.82   CD = 0.57
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smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Jun-3

Subject: 2013 belmont winners 8 generations female linebreeding:: Had to go to the 9th generation to find Females
Inbreeding.for Palice Malice.. Teflon Special
curlin/nureyev 2s
1st     mumtaz begum 9c,  da/bt sun princess, nasrullah 9 generation top
PALACE MALICE C, 2010 DP = 4-5-11-0-0 (20) DI = 2.64   CD = 0.65  curlin/nuruyev
 
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smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Jun-3

 by a Neck
Subject: 2012 belmont 8 gen female linebreeding
1st nor dan/ gone west 13b
UNION RAGS C, 2009 DP = 9-5-14-2-0 (30) DI = 2.33   CD = 0.70
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Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

Jun-5

Was looking at AGRs for past winners......their percentages are really......um...........low.  

 

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Jun-5

2011 belmont 8 gen female linebreeding:: BY 3/4,1 1/2,-51/4
1st mr p/alydar14a 

RULER ON ICE G, 2008 DP = 6-1-9-0-0 (16) DI = 2.56   CD = 0.81  IN THE SLOP

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smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Jun-5

2010 belmont 8 gen female linebreeding
1st mr p/nijinsky 10d
DROSSELMEYER C, 2007 DP = 7-2-10-2-1 (22) DI = 1.75   CD = 0.55  12 f type
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smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Jun-5

 2009 belmont 8 gen. female linebreeding
1st fappiano/storm bird 3-0  closest influence 5x6
SUMMER BIRD H, 2006 DP = 4-4-7-1-0 (16) DI = 2.56   CD = 0.69
 
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smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Jun-5

 belmont 2008 8 gen female linebreeding,
1st tiznow/ribot g/n 5i           N/N 12 f type  Strong  Dam side
DA' TARA C, 2005 DP = 4-2-5-0-1 (12) DI = 2.43   CD = 0.67
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smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Jun-5

What do you call Low and how do you arrive at that.

Are you talking the Female 8 gen. or the 9 generation for all.or both

are you looking for 12f type  to seperate from shorter distance itm type

g1 to Oc, etc, the who , who show up the most in the pedigree's that win.  up the closest % or 4x4 type

D0 you notice the Rasmussen Factor females that are 6Sx6d or closer in the pedigree and % and Influence

The same Siblings that show up and hardly any P/P type.

Sun Princess & Nasrullah, Secretariat & Sir Gaylord, Nor Dancer & Raise The Standard, 

Round Table & Monarchy  both by PrinceQ,, Natalma & Cosmah,  Dr Fager and Magic.

Hyperion & Pharamond, Preach &Yarn

I look for 3 or more of these sets in the same pedigree plus the top sires like Nor Dan & Mrp

and their top sons or API Line.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Jun-6

Here is the Average winning distance for the Sires and BMSires for the 9 entrants

for the 2023 Belmont Stakes. I suggest Not to fall in love With the  Tapit hype

for the 12f Distance, there are others like AP Indy and Tapits Sire Pulpit and I think Nijinky

that appear in more Belmont Winners in 5 generations than Tapit does.

6/10/23 Belmont Stakes 2023 3 yr olds 1 1/2 mile g1 Dirt Race  11, 9 entries
----------------------------------Sire---DSIRE
---------------------------------AWD--- AWD 
EP6  1 Tapit Shoes  20-1           7.6         7.4
P2    2Tapit Trice  3-1                 7.6         7.1
P4   3 Arcangelo  8-1                 7.8         7.6
E5   4 National Treasure  5-1     7.4         7.7
EP3 5 Il Miracolo  30-1               7.3         7.6
P3   6 Forte  5-2                          6.7         7.3
P3   7 Hit Show 10-1                   7.1         7.6
S     8 Angel of Empire  7-2         6.8         6.8
S     9 Red Route One 15-1        7.3         7.6
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