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Started 7/2/21 by smartyslew; 353462 views.
smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Aug-28

Travers  results  from Linebreeding nicks

1st Arcangelo   Fappiano/ Tapit   lines

2nd Disarm    Fappiano /Tapit

3rd Taptit Trice  Tapit/  Fappiano

4th Forte   Sadlers Wells/ Roberto  line

Mr P / thru API lines rule this race Thru  Fappiano and Tapit. 

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Aug-29

From message 2441 How I  finally played the Travers. I do not want to red board since I didn't
make up my mind until before the start ,I didn't like the Track Conditions.

I will show you a couple of dated tickets from my account since i didn't say before hand

who i was betting and that won't be redboarding after the race without proof,

When Arc odds went to 5-2 late I put money on him, and the last bet a exacta with Arc, Disarm and Mage.

Aug 26 3:19:34 PM Complete Saratoga 12 Win $20.00 2 $20.00  $74.00
Aug 26 3:19:35 PM Complete Saratoga 12 Exacta Box $2.00 2,4,6 $12.00  $72.50

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Aug-29

How my pedigree scoring did in the travers from post 2443.

My Pedigree scoring for the Travers Field for the day they were born
without rating them for their distance run and before meds were used
and any special feed, works, etc First to last best Pedigree IMO.
A very tight group. All G1 elite prospects all hitting the floor on Foal day. 
EDIT : 3 of the top 4 were in the Superfecta , missed 2nd place

1 Arcangelo  won

2 Mage

3 Tapit Trice  3rd

4 Forte   4th

5 Scotland

6 National Treasure

7 Disarm   2nd place,

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Aug-29

How The variants did in the travers  Message 2444

I don't go by the numbers alone and watch the replays to mark each ones trip
Before  we had all these 21st Century speed numbers the variant is what I was weaned on
1950's to 1992 .........when Beyers numbers came out where I was we thought this was a joke
they didn't work on our track, and we were competitive at the major tracks and I spent a lot of
time in Reno and Lake Tahoe 60's, 70's, 80's and on the books at some Casinos. in the 90's I got
Ill and stayed home in the OTB's close to home. Even had one of my mentors close by for a few years.
He thought Beyer was a retard. Back to the Variants .. I liked the Variants for Arc 3 + races different variants
2 gr races. Forte was ok with 2 races +2 if he ran st. would be much better the one hole inside no thanks
he doesn't like that. Disarm 2 plus es and one -1  ok , and Scotland varients ok. the rest were not good Imo
Disarm came in second and I liked it for 2nd place. no Scotland for me.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Aug-29

How Message 2437 did in the Travers

I will be adding info to this when I have time.
Best Speed at Distance:Mage 103 National Treasure 100 Disarm 98,  2nd Place                    PAR 104
Tidbit: Castellano has won 6 Travers,Last 5 winners have raced  at the Spa, 7 of last 10.
last 3 Favorites Won.  Edit: 7 winners now,  2nd Favorite, Sire won the Travers, like sire no race at Spa
Best horse in the race..
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Travers Race 12:  8/26/23 : 1 1/4 mile Dirt: G1,Non Lasix 3 Yr olds, 126 pounds
PP Horse A/S M/E Wgt Jockey Trainer                  run up
1 Forte P3, 7-5  4th 3 C  L free  4th 126 Ortiz, Jr. Irad Pletcher Todd A.     85 ft
2 Arcangelo P5* 5-2  Won 3 R Lbf 3,4 back 126 Castellano Javier Antonucci Jena M.  52 shortest runup in last
 
3 Tapit Trice P2  12-1  3rd 3 C b 126 Ortiz Jose L. Pletcher Todd A.      56
4 Mage  E6  4-1 3 C 126 Prat Flavien Delgado Gustavo     56
5 National Treasure E6*8-1 3 C L free,b off 126 Velazquez John R. Baffert Bob               52 ^
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smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Aug-30

Dominant Horse for Travers linebreeding  entrants Most Blood & Influence
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Arcangelo :Influence 3x4
 Unbridled 3s x 4d Unbridled Song, Tap Your Heels F Blood 18.75%, Agr 21.66% 1
Disarm: 4x5
Fappiano  5sx5sx5d Cryptoclearance ,Quiet American, Unbridled 9.38%, Agr 12.12%
Tapit Trice:  3x4
UnBridled  3s x 4d  Tap Your HeelsF, Unbridled Song  18.75% Agr 22.00% 1
Forte : 4x4
Storm Cat 4sx 4d Storming BeautyF, Forestry , 12.50%, agr 16.64% 5
National Treasure : 4x5
Northern Dancer 5s x 6sx 5dx5d, Heroes Honor, Nijinsky,Sadlers Wells, Storm Bird 10.94% Agr13.31% 6
Scotland:4x4
Mr Prospector 4sx 5s x4d SmartStrike,Miswaki,Gone West 15.63% Agr 18.33% 4
Mage :Influence 4x4
Mr Prospector 4s x 5s x 4d Smart Strike,Miswaki,Silver Ghost, 15.63% Agr 19.11% 3
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smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Aug-31

More on this later. EDIT See Next Message.

10th Race- Del Mar - Saturday, September 2nd, 2023

STAKES. 1 1/4 Mile Dirt. Purse $1,000,000. FanDuel Racing Pacific Classic S. (Grade 1). FOR THREE-YEAR-OLDS AND UPWARD 3 yr olds 118 others 124, 11 entrants, Par speed 105 Bris
only one E #9 Arabian Knight E8,only one S #11 Skinner S2 Both 3 yr olds.
Lasix free :3 Stilletto Boy,#5 Defunded, 7 Slow Down Andy,9 Arabian Knight, 
Lasix last race : #1 4 back, #2- 2 thru 7 back, #4 4 back, #6 2-5, # 8 3-4, #10 Last, #11 4 back
** won this race in 2021.
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PP Horse A/S M/E Wgt Jockey Trainer
1 Geaux Rocket Ride EP5 3 C 118 Smith Mike E. Mandella Richard E.
2 Katonah p5 scratch 4 G 124 Fresu Antonio O'Neill Doug F.
3 Stilleto Boy EP5 5 G 124 Desormeaux Kent J. Moger, Jr. Ed
4 Tripoli P3** 6 H 124 Pereira Tiago Josue Sadler John W.
5 Defunded EP3 5 G 124 Hernandez Juan J. Baffert Bob
6 Order And Law EP6 7 R
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  • Edited September 2, 2023 7:11 pm  by  smartyslew
smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Sep-2

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Edit How the angls did Lone E8 wired the field Arabian, Lone S OTm Skinner
Lasix Free Arabian WON , Slow Do, wn Andy 3rd ,Stilleto Boy DNF. Defunded 6th 2nd place Geaux one only L tace 4 back
Stilleto Boy 4th Used L 3-4 back..... Speed Last race top 3 List 2nd Arabian Knight Won, 3rd Geaux 2nd hit exacta
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Prime Power Top 3 : 1st ARabian WON, 2nd Defunded 6th 3rd Geaux 2nd Place Not bad
Best Speed at Distance. all 3 OTM...............Ave race rating best Stilleto Boy 121 DNF,Arabian 119 WON, Geaux 119 2nd Tripoli 119-OTM
Horse style E8 Arabian  win, Geaux EP5, 2nd , Andy Ep5 3rd, Senor Buscador P 4th pl.
Winner was on the lead at the mile mark. I marked the angles below the PP's


10th Race- Del Mar - Saturday, September 2nd, 2023

STAKES. 1 1/4 Mile Dirt. Purse $1,000,000. FanDuel Racing Pacific Classic S. (Grade 1). FOR THREE-YEAR-OLDS AND UPWARD 3 yr olds 118 others 124, 11 entrants, Par speed 105 Bris
only one E #9 Arabian Knight E8,only one S #11 Skinner S2
Lasix free :3 Stilletto Boy,#5 Defunded, 7 Slow Down Andy,9 Arabian Knight, 
Lasix last race : #1 4 back, #2- 2 thru 7 back, #4 4 back, #6 2-5, # 8 3-4,#10 Last,#11 4 back
Defunded favorite 5 of last 6 races....  6 th place
Speed last race 8 Senor Buscador 103 7 Slow Down Andy 101 1 Geaux Rocket Ride 100... Prime Power : 9 Arabian Knight 150.8 5 Defunded 150.7 1 Geaux Rocket Ride 144.2
-Best Speed at Distance :  4 Tripoli 108 5 Defunded 103 3 Stilleto Boy 101
Ave race rating ;Stilletto boy 121, Geaux Rocket Ride 119, Tripoli 119, Arabian Knight 119
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PP Horse A/S M/E Wgt Jockey Trainer                       runup last ft
1 Geaux Rocket Ride EP5 3 C 118 Smith Mike E. Mandella Richard E.5-2  56
2 Katonah p5 Scratch 4 G 124 Fresu Antonio O'Neill Doug F. 20-1-----
3 Stilleto Boy EP5 5 G 124 Desormeaux Kent J. Moger, Jr. Ed  8-1             45
4 Tripoli P3 6 H 124
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  • Edited September 3, 2023 6:11 pm  by  smartyslew
smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Sep-2

I will be looking for value in the PC and 1 wilted it down to 5 horses  and I'll put in
a win bet if I  get the odds Im looking for the same for exacta  and tri.

the 5 are Stilleto Boy, Defunded,Geaux  Rocket Ride 2nd , Arabian Knight WON, Slow Down Andy 3rd TRI if U played these 3

I might mix Tripoli in my tri if I don'y like the odds. EDIT Odds were to low to play
 

Let me know if this helped anybody

  • Edited September 3, 2023 6:15 pm  by  smartyslew
princeofdoc

From: princeofdoc

Sep-3

Well, you had the tri....don't know if you played it.  It actually paid quite well given the odds....

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